05/29/2026 7:40p EDT Tigers at ChiSox

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Even if we hadn’t had all of these walkoff homerun losses…..we’d still be like 10 games under .500

They have 7 walk-off losses.  If they won all those games, they would be at .500.   

More realistically, they have 15 blow saves.  Last year, they converted save situations at a 65% rate which is close to league average.  If they had the same rate this year, they would have 9 blown saves.  So, they possibly could be 2 games below .500.   

Edited 2 hours ago by Tiger337

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

However bad it is for us watching the Tigers lose in horrific fashion on TV night after night, it is twice as soul-crushing seeing it happen in person.

For me, It's not seeing it happen in person, that is worse.  It's being surrounded by opposing fans, the vast majority of which care a lot less about baseball than me and watching them go insane when it happens.  

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

They have 7 walk-off losses.  If they won all those games, they would be at .500.   

More realistically, they have 15 blow saves.  Last year, they converted save situations at a 65% rate which is close to league average.  If they had the same rate this year, they would have 9 blown saves.  So, they possibly could be 2 games below .500.   

And lets not forget that a blown save is a blown save whether it's one run or 3 that's given up. If Tigers relievers came into more games with a 3 run lead than a one run lead, or if the team scored  more late runs,  some of those saves wouldn't have been blown - or long story short, the BP has been bad but poor offense also contributes to it looking even worse.   

[kdog]

They had 6 innings to tack on runs last night..and basically did nothing.

This stretch is a combination of devastating injuries, bad luck and their platoon/interchangeable parts team build all crashing in on itself.

They have the 2nd worst pinch hitting production in baseball. The guys who are supposed to be platoon advantages can't repeat it, and their fringe roster guys have been terrible. No wins on the margins.

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

And lets not forget that a blown save is a blown save whether it's one run or 3 that's given up. If Tigers relievers came into more games with a 3 run lead than a one run lead, or if the team scored  more late runs,  some of those saves wouldn't have been blown - or long story short, the BP has been bad but poor offense also contributes to it looking even worse.   

Yes, the offense is bad and is setting up the bullpen for losses, but it's still an unusual proportion of blown saves .  The bullpen needs to shoulder some of the blame. 

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[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, kdog said:

They have the 2nd worst pinch hitting production in baseball

this has stood out in this stretch. Running a strategy you don't have the players to execute doesn't matter all that much when you are just PHing one terrible hitter for another (i.e. Short vs Workman), but it makes platooning Keith  - who has more potential to at least offer some OBP - even if he can't find ISO,   justifiably questionable.

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[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Yes, the offense is bad and is setting up the bullpen for losses, but it's still an unusual proportion of blown saves .  The bullpen needs to shoulder some of the blame.

no question they need a couple of power arms, and I don't see any on the near horizon.

[SoCalTiger]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

this has stood out in this stretch. Running a strategy you don't have the players to execute doesn't matter all that much when you are just PHing one terrible hitter for another (i.e. Short vs Workman), but it makes platooning Keith  - who has more potential to at least offer some OBP,  justifiably questionable.

As for pinch hitting is there a reason why Hinch didn't pinch hit for Short with the bases loaded early in the game ? Wasn't that the key AB in the game ? Just put Keith at third and move McGonigle to short afterwards ? Seems to me he is not following his own philosophy yet he pinch hit  3 times in the third/ DH spot. 

 

[SoCalTiger]

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

no question they need a couple of power arms, and I don't see any on the near horizon.

AND a couple power bats. in the age of runners on base in extra innings a strikeout pitcher is a necessity. Call it what you will but we need Power -arms and bats. 

[gehringer_2]

38 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

As for pinch hitting is there a reason why Hinch didn't pinch hit for Short with the bases loaded early in the game ? Wasn't that the key AB in the game ? Just put Keith at third and move McGonigle to short afterwards ? Seems to me he is not following his own philosophy yet he pinch hit  3 times in the third/ DH spot. 

 

Fair question. In baseball there are trade-offs to be made between the short term and the long term across a season. across a series and even across a game. It's hard to excuse letting Short bat unless Hinch has some other plan for how he wanted substitutions to play out. Maybe it was a good plan, but maybe it was a case where an emphasis on the short view may have been more appropriate - or maybe his match-up data said he didn't have a hitter likely to do anything anyway. That would certainly be a depressing reason.