06/03/2026 1:10p EDT Detroit Tigers at Tampa Bay Rays

[Shelton]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Dingler and Langeliers are the top catchers.  Langeliers is the better hitter, so fans might vote for him.  

But Dingler has the better name.

Also, what is worse? All star discussion or hall of fame discussion?

[lordstanley]

 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said:

I appreciate that getting All-Star recognition is cool, but I kind of wish the team sent few players, if any. Get rested, heal any minor injuries. I think Dingler and Greene have had seasons (so far) to warrant inclusion, and it would be awesome for McGonigle to go as a rookie, but with all the injuries this year-Stay home for a few days. 

I’m with you, I would rather the better guys on my team rest up for four days and heal the little owies and see the wife and kids and get their head straight for the second half, and I think more guys in the past couple decades have been doing exactly that, leading to a replacement using the best available guy not good enough to make the team first time around, and that’s just one of the reasons the All-Star Game doesn’t mean anything near what it used to.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, Shelton said:

But Dingler has the better name.

Also, what is worse? All star discussion or hall of fame discussion?

If by “worse” you mean better, then I think both are equally worse.

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

If by “worse” you mean better, then I think both are equally worse.

while I think both voting systems are very problematic, I am more interested in discussing merits of players for the Hall of Fame than for the allstar game.  One is for an entire career whereas the other is for a half-season.  

[oblong]

The simple 2 facts that every team needs a rep and fan voting means that AS game selections rank very low on how to evaluate a player's career.  A popular guy gets voted in and some crappy reliever gets picked from the worst team over a deserving fellow.

All Star games were fun when we didn't have interleague play and baseball wasn't on TV every day. We knew on a summer Tuesday night we could watch a game and see Fernando pitch to George Brett.... and that was the few times a fan of an AL team could see him pitch at all on their TV.

 

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

while I think both voting systems are very problematic, I am more interested in discussing merits of players for the Hall of Fame than for the allstar game.  One is for an entire career whereas the other is for a half-season.  

I like doing both although Hall of fame is usually a more robust conversation 

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

while I think both voting systems are very problematic, I am more interested in discussing merits of players for the Hall of Fame than for the allstar game.  One is for an entire career whereas the other is for a half-season.  

Sometimes, voting for an All Star is more career recognition than it is for how they are currently doing. Totally unfair but it's the name some fans vote for and not the recent stats.

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I like doing both although Hall of fame is usually a more robust conversation 

I do like evaluating current players, but the period of time leading up to the allstar game is arbitrary.  It's basically what a player does from April through June.  So, when you later call someone an allstar, it just means that he had a good first half of the season one year.  Allstar Zach McKinstry!  I also no longer care about the game itself so evaluating what a player does from April to June has to particular significance to me.  

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Sometimes, voting for an All Star is more career recognition than it is for how they are currently doing. Totally unfair but it's the name some fans vote for and not the recent stats.

Or sometimes it's just fans stuffing the ballot box for players on their favorite team.  yeah, this is worse than the Hall of Fame!

[papalawrence]

34 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Or sometimes it's just fans stuffing the ballot box for players on their favorite team.  yeah, this is worse than the Hall of Fame!

I remember one year Davey Lopes was voted to start and his avg was sub .200

[monkeytargets39]

I, for one, could not care less about the All Star game.  They’ve ruined the homerun derby too.

The only decent all-star game now is hockey.

[Sports_Freak]

24 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I, for one, could not care less about the All Star game.  They’ve ruined the homerun derby too.

The only decent all-star game now is hockey.

But baseball is still the most realistic all star game. Football is a joke and hockey and basketball all star games dont have any defensive plays. But, I agree to a certain point, the people who run the league have destroyed the appeal. 

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Or sometimes it's just fans stuffing the ballot box for players on their favorite team.  yeah, this is worse than the Hall of Fame!

This was my point last season when Rikey was one of the top voted players. Judge, I agree with. Riley? Not so much. At least last year...way too many strikeouts. But I guess, on second thought, he was/is probably better than most AL outfielders? I think he's much better this year, even with less home runs. I love less Ks and more contact. He would get my vote.

[papalawrence]

31 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I, for one, could not care less about the All Star game.  They’ve ruined the homerun derby too.

The only decent all-star game now is hockey.

In the 1970s the mlb all-star game was better than Christmas

[monkeytargets39]

7 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

But baseball is still the most realistic all star game. Football is a joke and hockey and basketball all star games dont have any defensive plays. But, I agree to a certain point, the people who run the league have destroyed the appeal. 

I agree with Oblong.  It was a lot more fun to watch when we didn’t have the schedule format that we do now.  Plus you can pretty much watch any team through streaming now…so the excitement of getting to see something like Skubal vs Ohtani is diminished a lot.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Or sometimes it's just fans stuffing the ballot box for players on their favorite team.  yeah, this is worse than the Hall of Fame!

Which, not for nothing, Baseball promotes. 

[chasfh]

43 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I, for one, could not care less about the All Star game.  They’ve ruined the homerun derby too.

The only decent all-star game now is hockey.

The thing that made the MLB All-Star Game so good in its time was, it was the only one where the players played hard to win. 

[monkeytargets39]

13 minutes ago, chasfh said:

The thing that made the MLB All-Star Game so good in its time was, it was the only one where the players played hard to win. 

I have mixed feelings on the whole “winning league gets home field advantage in the World Series” thing.  On the one hand, it does give the game meaning and reason to play hard for—but it’s still just an exhibition where you’re only pitching guys 1 inning each and you’re trying to get everyone in the game instead of playing matchups and strategies.  
 

It was also more fun when the talent in the league was spread out a lot more and half the roster wasn’t just Dodgers.

[chasfh]

14 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I have mixed feelings on the whole “winning league gets home field advantage in the World Series” thing.  On the one hand, it does give the game meaning and reason to play hard for—but it’s still just an exhibition where you’re only pitching guys 1 inning each and you’re trying to get everyone in the game instead of playing matchups and strategies.  
 

It was also more fun when the talent in the league was spread out a lot more and half the roster wasn’t just Dodgers.

I didn’t think it provided much incentive, since when the game comes down to brass tacks late, the guys that are in the game are the secondary All-Stars and the mandatories. 

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, papalawrence said:

In the 1970s the mlb all-star game was better than Christmas

My 10 year-old self was over the moon to have 3 Tigers in the starting lineup in ‘76

[gehringer_2]

so did anyone watch this game via DirectTV?. I got home in about the 5th inning and my channel guide didn't show this game, and it wasn't 'recording' anything even though it's supposed to 'record' the Tigers. So the guide had the game listed at 7! So sure enough, later last night I check and there was the full recording in my 'library' where I was able to watch it. Somehow they had the game but weren't sending it out live. Totally weird.

(I put 'record' in quotes because of course the cloud DVR doesn't record anything, it just gives you token into the carrier's library for that item.)

Edited 10 hours ago by gehringer_2