08/12/2026 6:40p EDT Cleveland Guardians vs Detroit Tigers

[IdahoBert]

44 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Vanilla Bean?

Yes, that is one of my favorites, and one of my least favorites is dull off-colored ice milk. 

[IdahoBert]

Cleveland’s pitcher Foster Griffin has been pretty good in his last six games. Seems to be a reclamation project. I pull for guys like this, but not when we play against them, and I’m hoping for a regression regarding his most recent outcomes.

[IdahoBert]

Also, I noticed that Cleveland has only one Mendoza level player in their bottom four. For much of this season, we’ve had three or four stacked down at the bottom. Of course batting average isn’t everything, etc. etc. but it does say something about an ability to connect.

[lordstanley]

10 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Cleveland’s pitcher Foster Griffin has been pretty good in his last six games. Seems to be a reclamation project. I pull for guys like this, but not when we play against them, and I’m hoping for a regression regarding his most recent outcomes.

I was wondering what was his story so looked into it this morning. Appeared in a handful of games in relief in the majors in 2022, then headed over to Japan for a few years. Washington took a flyer on him this winter, he has made 23 starts this season with a 3.31 ERA and 1.11 WHIP, but the Nationals decided to deal him at the deadline for 4 middling prospects. 

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, NorthWoods said:

Maybe Mize was the addition by subtraction in the room?   

you never know.

[Tigermojo]

Greene to IL. Julks recalled. Watson dfa.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Shelton said:

The tigers were 15-17 in Skubal-Mize starts. Of those 32 starts, only 3 were during our terrible May (all 3 Mize starts, 1-2 in those games), meaning they were 14-15 during the time when the team actually won games at a positive rate.

Outside of games started by those two, the tigers are 44-43.

Does this mean anything? Probably not.

without doing a lot of research,  off the top of my head the thought on this would be that maybe Hinch had been deploying his better bullpen pieces with the lower end of the rotation on the theory his top two should need them less, esp with Skubal. Like I said, I'm spitballing here, but there seem to be a number of painful memories of the BP blowing good Skubal starts despite my psyche's attempt to block them.

If that means now the unreliable bullpen pieces are deployed more after Melton and Jobe......you see the potential problem. 

Anyway - just a possible take for the counter intuitive results.

Edited August 12 by gehringer_2

[NorthWoods]

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

if they called up Julks who is off the roster?

EDIT: Riley to the 10day. Should have read further up. They just can't catch a break on injuries.

Edited August 12 by gehringer_2

[NorthWoods]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

if they called up Julks who is off the roster?

^^ up there.    Greene IL, Watson dfa

[monkeytargets39]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

if they called up Julks who is off the roster?

Riley to the DL, Watson DFAd.

 

[chasfh]

23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

you never know.

We may know soon.

[Shelton]

14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

without doing a lot of research,  off the top of my head the thought on this would be that maybe Hinch had been deploying his better bullpen pieces with the lower end of the rotation on the theory his top two should need them less, esp with Skubal. Like I said, I'm spitballing here, but there seem to be a number of painful memories of the BP blowing good Skubal starts despite my psyche's attempt to block them.

If that means now the unreliable bullpen pieces are deployed more after Melton and Jobe......you see the potential problem. 

Anyway - just a possible take for the counter intuitive results.

I think it’s just that game to game results include so much damn noise. Of course our team would be better if we still had them.

To the extent we were unlucky in their games, we were also unlucky in others. Our run difference had outpaced our record all year. So although we lost their production relative to their replacements, we still have the built in skills elsewhere that led to that positive run differential.

Maybe everyone else was also playing over their head and are due to regress negatively. 

[chasfh]

I thought I recognized Corey Julks’s name—late of the White Sox.

He’s a bum. But he does fill space.

[NorthWoods]

Just now, chasfh said:

I thought I recognized Corey Julks’s name—late of the White Sox.

He’s a bum. But he does fill space.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/08/tigers-place-riley-greene-on-injured-list-2.html?utm_source=twitter

Good write up here on the moves

[IdahoBert]

24 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Greene to IL. Julks recalled. Watson dfa.

Crap!

[IdahoBert]

Riley hasn’t done his Mr. Glass impersonation for a while, so I won’t hold this injury against him. 

[SoCalTiger]

32 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

without doing a lot of research,  off the top of my head the thought on this would be that maybe Hinch had been deploying his better bullpen pieces with the lower end of the rotation on the theory his top two should need them less, esp with Skubal. Like I said, I'm spitballing here, but there seem to be a number of painful memories of the BP blowing good Skubal starts despite my psyche's attempt to block them.

If that means now the unreliable bullpen pieces are deployed more after Melton and Jobe......you see the potential problem. 

Anyway - just a possible take for the counter intuitive results.

Maybe starting pitching is less impactful than it used to be ?

[IdahoBert]

Julks has shown some power at Toledo, so you never know. I did see that four years ago he hit 31 home runs, and I got excited about it until I saw it was in the PCL.

[Tigermojo]

Greene has been their worst hitter in the second half. I'd like to see what Malgeri can do with more playing time. 

[NorthWoods]

 

[NorthWoods]

Good, we get another Peaches night.   Always easier to listen to.

[Nate7474]

6 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

Good, we get another Peaches night.   Always easier to listen to.

It's funny to hear other perspectives because I find him boring. I guess that's why they rotate. 

Edited August 12 by Nate7474

[Dan Gilmore]

I last nights game Petry complimented the ump for his calls at the plate. Which pissed me off since I had seen him call many pitches that looked to be balls as strikes. None challenged l, so I am not sure he was wrong… moments later there were multiple really bad miscalls-this times challenged and overturned. 
 

yeah, be a bit of a Homer for the team, but don't fluff the umps.

[Sports_Freak]

You can't win the game in the 1st inning but you sure can lose it.