gehringer_2 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 Champlain towers building had an emergency warning system. Security Guard didn't know how to use it. 7 minutes elapsed between the call to 911 and the building's collapse. Do the math.. Quote The security guard in the lobby of Champlain Towers hurriedly dialed 911 to report the initial failure. An alarm may have sounded at that point in a limited part of the building, though it was clearly inaudible to many of those who still slept. The building also had a sophisticated audio warning system designed to broadcast an alert into the bedrooms of every unit. But it was never triggered, newly available deposition testimony and interviews show, because the security guard had never been trained about the system and the single button needed to activate it. “If I had known about it, I would have pressed it,” the security guard, Shamoka Furman, said in an interview. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/us/surfside-condo-collapse-alarm.html Quote
oblong Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 security was probably outsourced to the lowest bidder and the guards made $11 an hour. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, oblong said: security was certainly outsourced to the lowest bidder and the guards made $11 an hour. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 That fate was sealed months before when the inspectors told them they needed to make repairs NOW. It was only a matter of time. They didn't want to make this really expensive repairs...................I am sure it was really expensive, but I bet it didn't cost $1 billion dollars like it does now. Same mentality as the Catholic Church and Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan..........we'll just ignore it, everything is fine. That video of the water gushing into the basement 7 minutes before the collapse is pretty chilling. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 I don't think 7 minutes in the middle of the night would have been enough time to get anyone out of there. You'd have to wake most of them up first (not being sarcastic), this was at 1am, right? But no excuse for not being trained. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: I don't think 7 minutes in the middle of the night would have been enough time to get anyone out of there. You'd have to wake most of them up first (not being sarcastic), this was at 1am, right? But no excuse for not being trained. well, let's just say it's an experiment that should have been run. 1 Quote
pfife Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 This is probably where I should post about the edenville and sanford dams. FYI, it's the local taxpayers apparently footing the bill for the rebuild. Because it was their fault and haven't sacrificed enough. I don't know how there isn't federal money for this. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, pfife said: This is probably where I should post about the edenville and sanford dams. FYI, it's the local taxpayers apparently footing the bill for the rebuild. Because it was their fault and haven't sacrificed enough. I don't know how there isn't federal money for this. See, the people that want to mock "Build Back Better" (only because it's Biden's phrase) don't seem to understand that if you don't, destruction. illness or even death will eventually happen. Public Works aren't sexy, they're boring as hell, not like a shiny new building or stadium, but they make our lives better and provide a hell of a lot of jobs. I don't think anyone truly has any idea how many bridges we're driving on are just one mistake, or one missed inspection or one "we'll fix it later" away from collapsing. I think if we realized it, it would scare the hell out of us. 1 1 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) DTE paying to name a music venue. Why? I know there are other energy options, but not really. DTE didn't need the publicity. Took the name of Pine Knob away for 20 years for something that wasn't needed and we probably had to pay that expense. Always seemed dumb to me Edited June 24, 2022 by Motor City Sonics 1 Quote
chasfh Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: DTE paying to name a music venue. Why? I know there are other energy options, but not really. DTE didn't need the publicity. Took the name of Pine Knob away for 20 years for something that wasn't needed and we probably had to pay that expense. Always seemed dumb to me You gotta spend out the marketing budget, or else they'll cut the budget for next year. Quote
Biff Mayhem Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 3:13 PM, chasfh said: You gotta spend out the marketing budget, or else they'll cut the budget for next year. Having experienced a government run budget, this is very true. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 Something that shouldn't be the way it is............ Uwe Krupp being in the Stanley Cup team photo on the ice after the game in 2002. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 What does everyone think about this? My understanding was when he/she entered college HE swam as a male and was very average. Then switched to womens and blows the ladies away. Is this fair to the women in NCAA swimming? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 19, 2022 Author Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: What does everyone think about this? My understanding was when he/she entered college HE swam as a male and was very average. Then switched to womens and blows the ladies away. Is this fair to the women in NCAA swimming? It will never happen, but I think in the end, sex is genetics and gender is ultimately genes intersecting with social construct. If we understood it that way, most of this kind of dilemma goes away. You compete in the physical class your musculoskeletal-skeletal genes put you in, you live however you want gender wise or your brain happens to be wired by the genes that drive that. this requires a recognition that sex and gender are not necessarily coincident. I don’t think this is a widely held view, but I think it is reality. Edited July 19, 2022 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 26, 2022 Author Posted August 26, 2022 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fire-biggest-us-midwest-refinery-185900197.html BP trying to burn down their Whiting refinery again (largest in the Midwest). They have to be the most incompetent operator in the industry. One company I'd love to see just go away. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 21, 2022 Author Posted October 21, 2022 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/exclusive-korean-auto-giant-hyundai-investigating-child-labor-its-us-supply-2022-10-19/ DETROIT, Oct 19 (Reuters) - Hyundai Motor Co (005380.KS), Korea's top automaker, is investigating child labor violations in its U.S. supply chain and plans to "sever ties" with Hyundai suppliers in Alabama found to have relied on underage workers, the company's global chief operating officer Jose Munoz told Reuters on Wednesday. A Reuters investigative report in July documented children, including a 12-year-old, working at a Hyundai-controlled metal stamping plant in rural Luverne, Alabama, called SMART Alabama, LLC. Quote
Jim Cowan Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/exclusive-korean-auto-giant-hyundai-investigating-child-labor-its-us-supply-2022-10-19/ DETROIT, Oct 19 (Reuters) - Hyundai Motor Co (005380.KS), Korea's top automaker, is investigating child labor violations in its U.S. supply chain and plans to "sever ties" with Hyundai suppliers in Alabama found to have relied on underage workers, the company's global chief operating officer Jose Munoz told Reuters on Wednesday. A Reuters investigative report in July documented children, including a 12-year-old, working at a Hyundai-controlled metal stamping plant in rural Luverne, Alabama, called SMART Alabama, LLC. Just amazing. That 12 year old wasn't harvesting cocoa beans on a plantation in Ghana...he was working in a God damn auto parts factory in Alabama. I confess to not having read the Reuters report. Imagine being shamed by Korea about labour standards. Quote
chasfh Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 Alabama and the states right around it do have the systemic exploitation of various types of labor embedded in their history, the memory of which can’t help but have seeped into their communal psyche. There’s probably been a lot of generational nostalgic reminiscence about it that’s been passed down. So in that sense, if it’s going to happen anywhere in America, it’s probably there. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 22, 2022 Posted October 22, 2022 This needs to happen every time the pukes hold these events. 3 Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 22, 2022 Posted October 22, 2022 those guys are freaking hilarious! I'm on board... a massive show-up of historically accurate participants, including "field workers" in chains with all the bags of cotton balls that they've "picked"... Good for a laugh or six... Quote
gehringer_2 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Keystone drops 14,000 barrels of oil in a Kansis creek. Nothing to see here. That line in the Great Lakes? Why worry? Here, have a stock option. You'll feel better. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/keystone-pipeline-shut-after-oil-spill-into-kansas-creek-2022-12-08/ 7 spills in 12 yrs of operation. Yeah - I know the US corporate and legal system isn't structured to do it, but people should be going to jail over shitty operations like this. That's the only way to stop it. Edited December 9, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote
chasfh Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 12 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Keystone drops 14,000 barrels of oil in a Kansis creek. Nothing to see here. That line in the Great Lakes? Why worry? Here, have a stock option. You'll feel better. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/keystone-pipeline-shut-after-oil-spill-into-kansas-creek-2022-12-08/ 7 spills in 12 yrs of operation. Yeah - I know the US corporate and legal system isn't structured to do it, but people should be going to jail over shitty operations like this. That's the only way to stop it. It's an outrage the Democrats are so low as to create oil spills into real America. they would never do this to San Francisco or Chicago. They've already started murdering ordinary people, good people, God-fearing people, just because they're Republicans. Marjorie was right. God, she's so hot. I just wanna Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Posted March 27, 2023 so it turns out Kia and Hyundai have been selling cars into the US market without a standard theft deterent system and the situation has gotten bad enough that inurers like State Farm won't write comprensive policies for them. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/serious-problem-state-farm-progressive-213000996.html Good example of why 'Caveat Emptor' is an insufficeint mechanism for regulating markets for modern technology. Who would even dream of asking about this stuff at the dealership? Quote
1984Echoes Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Both Korean manufacturers. Maybe Koreans don't steal cars? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Posted March 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Both Korean manufacturers. Maybe Koreans don't steal cars? that's probably a good point. Quote
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