Deleterious Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I wouldn't have guessed an extension now. I figured there were probably discussions between both sides. But, I guessed an extension wouldn't have occurred so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 He's looked great thru 5 games. I hope we are not jumping the gun because he is off to a hot start. On the other hand, I love having him so I am not upset about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Holy shit that was fast. I like him. But ~$20 Mill per year at years 34 and 35? I get it that he might be the right veteran to show these kids how to play in the NBA... still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 That isn't much money since the cap is projected at $134M next year. 15% of your cap is about right for a 40% 3PT shooter. They still have $40M in space this summer. But I wouldn't cry if year 2 was a team option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I think you might have something next year if you can add one good big to the starting lineup so possibly overpaying for Bogey does not seem all that bad anyway. Just need to find the right big. And the right coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hart said: I think you might have something next year if you can add one good big to the starting lineup so possibly overpaying for Bogey does not seem all that bad anyway. Just need to find the right big. And the right coach. Keys to the Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiebunz Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'm good with it. Elite shooters who don't rely on athleticism in theory should age well. The number sounds about right. The salary cap has changed a lot over the past 5 years or so. Super max players make around $50 million per now. Max players coming off rookie contracts make close to $40 million per. $20 million per is role player money. A good, very good role player. But not a star. Not even necessarily a starter. And I wouldn't look too deeply into it. Trader Troy signed both Plumlee and Olynyk to 3 year deals and they were both gone a year after signing. Bogey is an asset to the team but also a trade asset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 hopefully this makes him easier to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 hours ago, buddha said: hopefully this makes him easier to trade. And that could be an angle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I remember hearing that this FA class is pretty weak so the Pistons may feel that its better to use some of that space on Bogey now vs. using it on a potentially inferior player come summer time, they also may feel in 2 years the FA class may look more attractive so his expiring contract may be worth more to a team then instead of during this class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Good shit. At worst, they have a real solid vet around the young guys for a few years and. at best, they made him a more tradeable asset to offer more flexibility if they want to add futures and create cap space for a more longer term piece all while Bojan gets some financial security. Win/Win deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Probably still pretty difficult to trade him due to his contract. Contending teams usually do not have $20M laying around they can part with in a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 So they can dump him for $2M. Not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYLion Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Deleterious said: Probably still pretty difficult to trade him due to his contract. Contending teams usually do not have $20M laying around they can part with in a deal. Yes but I think having him cost controlled for the next two years with the second year being a partial guarantee is a bigger selling point. For this year, the Pistons can take an expiring contract to offset the salary. I doubt they trade him by this deadline anyway but I think this makes him a more valuable asset should they choose to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, NYLion said: Yes but I think having him cost controlled for the next two years with the second year being a partial guarantee is a bigger selling point. For this year, the Pistons can take an expiring contract to offset the salary. I doubt they trade him by this deadline anyway but I think this makes him a more valuable asset should they choose to. Bojan is a very desirable player and doesn't need a bigger selling point. I imagine Ainge had calls from every contending team in the league when Utah was trying to move him. It is just insanely difficult for a contending team to come up with matching salary. Most contenders probably wanted him to hit free agency so they could try to snag him with the MLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiebunz Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 $20 million is not as difficult to trade for as it initially appears. A lot of teams have contracts that are in the $20 mill range who aren't even a top 3, top 4 player on the team. And most teams, even contenders, have enough smaller contracts to add up and match if they needed to. The MLE is up to around $10 million these days. Plenty of $5-10 million smaller salaries on every payroll. Just have to do 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trades. Contenders like Boston could do a straight up trade with either Brogdon or Derrick White. Philly could put together Melton, Korkmaz, and Thybulle to match. Milwaukee could package Portis and Allen. Miami could trade Duncan Robinson straight up or package Oladipo, Martin, and Dedmon to match. That's 4 contenders in the East that could trade for Bogey if they really wanted him. A contending team wants Bogey bad enough, they'd be able to work the salaries. Would be up to Weaver if they sweetened a trade package enough for it to make sense for the Pistons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabretooth Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Deleterious said: I love this guy but this seemed a little off at first blush for someone who will be 35 years old in the second year of the extension. Given the partial guarantee of only $2M that seems reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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