Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[ewsieg]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

I wish I could give you three likes for this one.

The trolliest part of this whole thing was the demand out of nowhere on Sinclair stationery that Kimmel make a substantial personal donation to Charlie Kirk's despicable TPUSA organization. Sinclair has exactly zero direct ties to that outfit, so what the **** was in it for them to demand that?

What's in it is that it helps keep them in the good graces of the FCC and Trump.  They help Trump, Trump will help Sinclair.  

[CMRivdogs]

We have a Sinclair station in our market. I'm going to start keeping a log of commercials during their newscasts. Might even stay up to monitor spot loads during the Kimmel replacement time slot. Then start calling the local car dealers, stores, services I see advertised and let them know I'm starting a campaign to boycott them

It's my first amendment right. Hit them in the pocketbook. Especially if the station's sales reps get told the reason they are no longer getting buys.

[gehringer_2]

15 hours ago, Deleterious said:

1.7 million viewers across 200 affiliates is only 8,500 viewers per affiliate.  Throw an episode of Friends and Seinfeld on and they can do those numbers. 

ABC sells ads based on all 200 affiliates. If a bunch of them no longer show Kimmel they are refunding ad buys while still paying full price to produce his show.  Disney obviously has the means to eat those losses, but they won't want to. 

You also might end up losing some top tier guests. Why go on a show that doesn't reach a good chunk of the country?  

I bet the big affiliates have quiet a bit of power.

but was it the affiliates who wanted it or just Sinclair management?

[VegasTiger]

56 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

We have a Sinclair station in our market. I'm going to start keeping a log of commercials during their newscasts. Might even stay up to monitor spot loads during the Kimmel replacement time slot. Then start calling the local car dealers, stores, services I see advertised and let them know I'm starting a campaign to boycott them

It's my first amendment right. Hit them in the pocketbook. Especially if the station's sales reps get told the reason they are no longer getting buys.

I'm in a bit of a pickle. Mad at ABC, but my NBC station is Sinclair and my CBS station is Nexstar.

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, VegasTiger said:

I'm in a bit of a pickle. Mad at ABC, but my NBC station is Sinclair and my CBS station is Nexstar.

Do what we mostly do - just turn the thing off. You do a lot more living when you stop sitting and watching. And I mean that seriously.

Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Wow

Not to worry, he'll repent.

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Ted spends more time podcasting than legislating at this point... He understands the precedent being set.

Seriously, how much time do any of those Republican "lawmakers" spend making any law?

[Deleterious]

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

but was it the affiliates who wanted it or just Sinclair management?

Not sure I understand your question. The affiliates that Sinclair and Nexstar own wanted it because they own them. That equals about 70 combined. No clue what the other 130 wanted. I'm sure quite a few were fine keeping Kimmel on.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, ewsieg said:

What's in it is that it helps keep them in the good graces of the FCC and Trump.  They help Trump, Trump will help Sinclair.  

Sure, I get exactly why they are doing it. That's not the mystery. The mystery is, how did we as a collective country let everything crash this far this fast.

I think we all intellectually knew that democracy is fragile, but I don't think any of us truly understood that American democracy was this fragile, like an eggshell.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

We have a Sinclair station in our market. I'm going to start keeping a log of commercials during their newscasts. Might even stay up to monitor spot loads during the Kimmel replacement time slot. Then start calling the local car dealers, stores, services I see advertised and let them know I'm starting a campaign to boycott them

It's my first amendment right. Hit them in the pocketbook. Especially if the station's sales reps get told the reason they are no longer getting buys.

Better hurry, because I don't believe you're going to be able to do that kind of thing for much longer. The regime will designate boycotts as "economic terrorism", or some such rot. And in a very certain narrow sense, it is economic terrorism. But it's not illegal. Not yet.

[LaceyLou]

12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Do what we mostly do - just turn the thing off. You do a lot more living when you stop sitting and watching. And I mean that seriously.

Time to look at the books thread.

[oblong]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Better hurry, because I don't believe you're going to be able to do that kind of thing for much longer. The regime will designate boycotts as "economic terrorism", or some such rot. And in a very certain narrow sense, it is economic terrorism. But it's not illegal. Not yet.

Musk tried to say when advertisers were leaving twittter. 

[chasfh]

18 minutes ago, VegasTiger said:

I'm in a bit of a pickle. Mad at ABC, but my NBC station is Sinclair and my CBS station is Nexstar.

WGN-TV, the once-vaunted once-superstation once owned by the Chicago Tribune ("World's Greatest Newspaper), is now owned by Nexstar.

How the mighty have fallen. Not unlike WJR-AM.

[chasfh]

Just now, oblong said:

Musk tried to say when advertisers were leaving twittter. 

I remember that, and it's paved the way for the next charge of same.

The argument, specious as it is, has a long history in this country: when black people boycotted offending companies during the wane of the Jim Crow era, they were also referred to as "economic terrorists".

[CMRivdogs]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

but was it the affiliates who wanted it or just Sinclair management?

Sinclair is an affiliate. They are one of the largest ownership groups in the country. It depends on the market what network they pick up.

They were also the one getting the most press on that particular subject.