chasfh Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 33 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: This. It won't be hard to find a jury to acquit - all they have to do in FLA is find a white one which should be easy in an area that is >90% white. Especially when DeSantis weighs in on it, thus giving state approval to the shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) Trump has already promised absolute immunity for police https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/trump-legal-argument-protection-president/ Quote “You can’t stop police from doing the job of strong & effective crime prevention because you want to guard against the occasional ‘rogue cop’ or ‘bad apple,’” he wrote in all caps. “Sometimes you just have to live with ‘great but slightly imperfect.’” Police officers are protected against lawsuits related to their official actions, called “qualified immunity.” Without “complete & total presidential immunity,” Trump wrote, “the authority & decisiveness of a president of the United States will be stripped & gone forever.” It's what he's wanted all along an absolute police state Along with a tax haven for billionaires Edited May 10 by CMRivdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 3 hours ago, chasfh said: but I don't agree with your attempt to shift the focus of the story to some civil rights attorney. I wasn't looking to shift the focus, just expounded on one aspect of the story, a lying story, put out by Crump. If it's impossible to make the narrative worse than it already was, then you'd think there would be no need to lie about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, ewsieg said: I wasn't looking to shift the focus, just expounded on one aspect of the story, a lying story, put out by Crump. If it's impossible to make the narrative worse than it already was, then you'd think there would be no need to lie about it. And yet you continue to make whoever the **** this Crump is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 20 minutes ago, chasfh said: And yet you continue to make whoever the **** this Crump is the point. You really have no idea who Benjamin Crump is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, ewsieg said: You really have no idea who Benjamin Crump is? He has not been on NPR recenlty so give him a break! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Just now, Tigeraholic1 said: He has not been on NPR recenlty so give him a break! LOL I'd expect Crump to be on NPR daily, probably with his own show called 'hands up, don't shoot'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I have no idea who that is, no, so I assume he must be just another bogeyman right-wingers bring up to scare red hats of modest worldliness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I don't know who Benjamin Crump is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Neither did I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasTiger Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Seriously? The guy who has represented the family in virtually every case involving African Americans since Trayvon Martin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Seriously. Despite its apparent comic value, the name never broke through to me in any news stories I read about incidents he was involved in. But I can see how right-wing media, which thrives on demonization and dehumanization, would name him and show his face over and over to rile up their consumers and get them clicking on ads for gold-based 401(k)s and fascist pillows. Although: part of it might also be that I don't generally pay close attention to stories about big topics like police shootings or mass protests that mainly focus on a sprawling cast of named characters and how they interpersonally interact. People will get named in these stories, even people with funny names, and I will immediately forget the names while internalizing the big idea the stories are getting across. Zimmerman and Trayvon was different because it was the first, or one of the first, story of its kind; same with George Floyd and Derek (or was it Darren?) Chauvin. But I don't remember the names of anyone from any of the follow-up incidents, at least not in terms of unaided recall. Tell me their names and it might ring a bell, or it might not. But I don't generally think of stories about incidents with broad sociological or political implications as being about this person vs. that person. That would explain in part why Crump doesn't ring even a little bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I’ve also never heard of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasTiger Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I'm pretty much MSNBC exclusively so it's probably just my own bubble. It's not like I'm a big fan or something. I just don't know how you avoided him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I’ve never heard of him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 41 minutes ago, VegasTiger said: I'm pretty much MSNBC exclusively so it's probably just my own bubble. It's not like I'm a big fan or something. I just don't know how you avoided him. … and, now, I know who it is. I guess I honestly never made note of his name before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 He is the modern day Al Sharpton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) Well, I must admit, “Black America’s attorney general” does sound very threatening … Edited May 13 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I'm just surprised because he reminds me of a Fieger, where he tries to be in front of the camera as much as possible. And while the right wing might make him out to be a boogie man.... you know for things like blatantly lying and little things like that, he's definitely not a product of right wing media. Quick google search on his name and I find this on the first page (national news only): The independent - Leans Left The Hill - Center Newsweek - Center PBS - Leans Left Yahoo - Leans Left NBC News - Leans Left USA Today - Leans left The Daily Wire - Right Huffington Post - Left The New Yorker - Left Additionally, an all-sides search on his name based on left, center, right sources yields: Left - 6620 results Center - 2450 results Right - 2030 results Thus why overall just a bit surprised so many of you don't know about him. In my younger, more snarky and more ideological days, I'd probably respond with something like "of course you liberals don't have any idea who's even saying the talking points you throw back at me" 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) I still don't know anything about the guy, and FWIW, which may or may not be much, your all sides research looks like a bunch of random websites and numbers without sourcing, linking, or corroboration. Edited May 13 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, chasfh said: I still don't know anything about the guy, and FWIW, which may or may not be much, your all sides research looks like a bunch of random websites and numbers without sourcing, linking, or corroboration. If you're interested in how they determine, they provide information on it. I don't count it as the gospel, but have used it as an additional resource. https://www.allsides.com/media-bias 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motown Bombers Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I saw the video. This isn't trading barbs. MTG said something about Jasmine Crockett's eyebrows and AOC rightfully told MTG to knock it off and apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 16 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: That headline is totally not representative of what happened. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 No it's not. Tired of the media playing this out as if it's just normal banter and both sides need to cool it. The gentle bear from Georgia cannot handle a black woman as her peer, that's her problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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