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lol, ;-)) On 5/10/2026 at 12:59 PM, NorthWoods said: Gage Workman is about to put this team on his back and carry it to 1st place. Thus it is said, thus it shall be.

Any of the above. If he's not contributing he needs to go.

Wow a pitcher that can field his position!

The problem with Tork waiting for his pitch is that even when he gets it he rarely barrels it

Dirks pointing out Tork’s problem.

I don't think the Tigers hitters are playing below their optimum as a group. The following players with 50 or more at bats have played ABOVE their PECOTA projections: Greene McGonigle Dingler Baez AS EXPECTED Carpenter Keith Torres Torkelson BELOW EXPECTATIONS Vierling McKinstry Perez Jones Lee They are just an average offense with some injured players right now. They are not going to carry a team which has been decimated by pitching injuries.

Oops.

Gage “Chuck Knoblauch” Workman

I care waaaaay less about the Ks if he’s hitting in the .300s and OBPing .400s

Oops, wrong thread.

3-run Homerun EnGAGEd

Gage!

Gage! boom! 3-0

I learned yesterday I had been pronouncing Bruschetta wrong.

It pains me to say this because I had high hopes not that long ago…. We are getting dangerously close to the point where are going to have to break apart this core a bit. Not saying a full rebuild is needed or anything that dramatic—but it’s just obvious that some of these guys just don’t work together on the same roster. Offensively and defensively, you can easily build around McGonigle, Dingler and Riley Greene. Greenes defense isn’t great, but you can live with it if he’s going to hit like he is. He’s made adjustments from last year and has exceeded my expectations. Unless they all have huge second halves, I think we are going to have to choose to keep one of Tork, Carpenter and Keith after this year. My vote would be Keith, but then the plan has to be primary DH/backup 1B. Carp is fun but can’t stay healthy and has gotten worse overall as time has gone by aside from his occasional heroic moments. Tork just isn’t gonna figure it out here. Maybe another org can help him, but it’s just not clicking and there’s no reason to re-sign him in the future. We need to either look at Max Anderson as a 1B option next year or go find an everyday 1B somewhere. 2B needs to be McGonigles home every day next year. Nothing against Torres, but we can do a lot with that $22 million to fix other holes. We have one more year of Javy after this one—just stick him at SS and maybe platoon him with McKinstry. We are going to need a 3B. Keith ain’t it. Aside from Hao Yu Lee, I don’t know what we do here. There’s nothing coming open via Free Agency. We need someone who is above average defensively for this pitching staff. As for OF, Riley is locked in, and you’d have to assume Max Clark will be given every chance to take CF by next spring. Vierling can be the backup to all 3 spots. Jones needs to go. Perez is at the point now where he’s almost valueless because of his defense. You could run Carpenter in RF, but expect him to miss time, and then we run into the problem of having 3 LH outfielders again. You could probably shop Carpenter to a team with a short RF porch and get something good in return. Meadows needs to either make the team and perform or stay in AAA. If we end up not trying to retain Skubal, then maybe you throw a bunch of money at Seiya Suzuki. Dingler is at C. Rogers can stay until Briceno/Liranzo/etc are ready. The obvious key with the pitching staff is health, but a planned 2026 rotation of Valdez, Mize, Jobe, Melton, Montero should at least be competitive. Add in Olson as a wildcard plus there are actually plenty of decent mid-rotation free agents we could go after. If we can shore up the defense and catch a bit of a break health-wise, this unit can be acceptable. Bullpen needs a lot of work and hopefully the last year and a half has drilled that into Harris’ brain. Holton, Hurter, Vest and Finnegan are the only keepers. Brieske is a wildcard. Hanifee could be useful if we have a good infield defense. Otherwise, for the love of god get some guys with legit swing and miss and who can pound the strike zone effectively. No more bargain bin hunting. If the Diamondbacks fall out of the race this year, maybe look to try and do Carp/Tork for Arenado/prospects so we can have a competent glove at 3B next year. AZ needs an outfielder/DH and maybe Tork plays better if he’s closer to home. if you can run this out next year: C- Dingler/Rogers 1B- Anderson/Keith 2B- McGonigle/Anderson SS- Baez/McKinstry 3B- Arenado/McKinstry LF- Greene/Vierling CF- Clark/Meadows RF- Suzuki/Vierling DH- Keith I think you dramatically improve the defense both with a regular starting lineup as well as the bench. You have an even LH/RH amount in the lineup and can mix and match to play platoons if you really need to. No one on the roster has to absolutely be benched due to handedness except maybe Keith. Even if there are injuries, you have a bit more competent depth with Lee, Jung, Malgeri, Cruz all having youth, defensive versatility and slight offensive upside. SP- Valdez, Mize, Jobe, Melton/Olson/Montero RP- Vest, Hurter, Holton, Hanifee, Finnegan (whomever doesn’t make the rotation), plus 2 premium free agent signings. We just have to get more athletic, consistent and healthy. Unfortunately the players we need to start moving on from quickly are some of the ones fans are attached to. Harris has to make tough decisions this offseason if we can’t get this ship righted. A wildcard berth this year shouldn’t be celebrated as a win even with the injury issues. We spent a lot of money and need it to pay off.

Seravalli is usually a hack so I feel like this means he'll be in Detroit next season

Riley has made a good step this season. nice OBP improvement, though still too many Ks

indeed. doesn’t fully explain why guys that are playing are playing below optimum, but you can’t discount the snowball effect.

Slump buster.

Please don't even speak a Nurse to Detroit possibility into the ether we don't want that

Couldn't help myself 😂 It'll be interesting to see what they can do moving forward without a first round pick this draft and their 2-4 missing the following draft. Their prospect pool is already bottom half of the league, they have to hope Stramel is a guy especially since they have no center depth (or a number one center) on their nhl roster. They have like $12 million in cap space next season but they have a lot of roster spaces to fill so it isn't like they can acquire a premier player. Their non-Hughes/Faber defenders were pretty damn bad. I guess it is nice to win a playoff series but that is a flawed roster with a tenuous future moving forward.

He shived him with that and he didn't even know it.

Fire everyone!

he's not open. he drove the lane yesterday once and scored. more of that please. every thing we said about duren in the playoffs has come true. the hope is he is young and will continue to improve.

Hope springs eternal!