1984Echoes

So ****ing sad. And so ****ing true.

Just for arguments' sake... Now change those names to: Jacob DeGrom (or Joe Ryan); Mason Miller, and Austin Riley.

This.

Even BETTER! Matt "I'm 27 and I STILL haven't found what I'm looking for" Manning. Alex "I have no idea where the ball is going" Lange. And Jason "Mmmm, good coffee!" Foley. As our late innings TRIFECTA!!! You know. Like Cerberus. A 3-headed monster... or dog... or... something.

Can we combine the two trade threads?

You will get THE Matt Manning and LIKE it!!!

Detroit after the trade deadline gets 3B Hao Yu Lee and reliever Matt Manning.

From the tone of my posting... obviously.

I think he would get a lot of doubles going for contact with two strikes on him... I would take a lot of singles and doubles in lieu of a few HR's and lots and lots of K's. Just my 2 cents.

Everyone but 18 and 19? OK, close enough. Pretty much what everyone was saying... that Ethan Rogers would be a fallback only option... I'm good with this draft. Let's see what the development guys can do with these kids. I'm excited about River Hamilton...

I DIDN'T say the Jays were trading us Bichette for Meadows... I said IF we trade for someone LIKE Bichette... that makes Meadows tradeable, imo. That says nothing about same trade, that says nothing about the Jays actually trading Bichette... That is a cheap shot post you made there... IMO.

Going way too fast... I need to slow down... And read forwards not backwards...

Meh.

Down to 3-5-9-11? AWESOME!!! And we signed Ethan Rogers TOO! I asked Harris to get all his guys signed... And it looks like he might hit that outta the park!

PPS: Parker Meadows also becomes tradeable if we trade for someone like Bo Bichette... Stick Baez in center until his contract runs out or Clark is ready; whichever comes first. Just sayin'...

It's why we got Meadows for Paredes...

The flipside is that a team that is teetering near the playoffs might be more amenable to trading if they are getting "MLB-ready" prospects instead of low-A lottery tickets. Trade a pending free agent and get a couple guys that might help in 2026. That may benefit the Tigers if Jung, Lee, etc... are looked at as possible decent MLB players and "MLB ready or near-ready" and a trade could be worked out. I have no idea what GM's are thinking along any of these lines... I'm just sayin'. Another flipside is: Is Lee worth US taking a shot at promoting him and seeing if he helps on the IF, and as a righty bat? Do we have one, or a couple internal guys that just might be the "answer" to a couple of current team issues? As someone suggested: Melton could be slotted into the bullpen and pitch some high leverage innings down the stretch. Just a few thoughts rolling around in my head...

Wants: Jacob DeGrom. Eugenio Suarez. One "misses bats" reliever less than 30 y.o. (choose from amongst): Mason Miller, Cade Smith, Emmanual Clase, Abner Uribe, Jhoan Duran. Willing to trade: One of Mize/ Olson (if getting a DeGrom or a Joe Ryan... keep one/ trade one), Liranzo, Lee, Hamm, Hall, Jace Jung, Max Anderson, Montilla, Montero, Madden, Campos, Miller, Montalvo... Pretty much anyone except a select few in order to get deals done. I think Tork would become available as part of a trade if it included a more consistent righty power bat that isn't over 30... Austin Riley of the Braves would be my target. Plays 3rd, put Keith at 1B, also makes Jung and Anderson eminently excess to trade... IMO.

We can have really nice things if that player wants to play for the Detroit Tigers and not follow Boras's advice to hamstring the current and future of our Org beyond means that make sense for the Tigers.

Skubal wins Cy Young, World Series MVP, and we win the World Series. Trifecta. And the Phillies and Dodgers will try to outbid each other to pay exactly the price I outlined... Errr... I would hope so.

That doesn't make sense when a team is Championship caliber. MUST have competent backup QB or two because injuries happen. And we don't want our season derailed by a Goff injury and subpar backup QB play. Now... that being said... if Allen shines brightly and some team makes a stupid offer for Hooker... maybe... But I still think that won't make sense until after the season plays out. Isn't Allen a FA after this year? He might be the one that gets traded...

I think we can have nice things in Detroit. But it's pick and choose because we can't have EVERYTHING in Detroit. Harris chose Colt Keith. For example. I'm just guessing... but I think Skubal/Boras and also Ilitch are going to take this choice out of Harris's hands. I've been waffling myself on Skubal. Not on the contract... because I think he is absolutely pricing himself out of Detroit. Both AAV AND term (10-ish years). But waffling on keeping him in 2026 and just taking the pick, or getting a haul this offseason. One the one hand, he's our best chance in 2026. On the other hand... if some team (Dodgers/ Phillies/ other) makes a crazy offer that makes us both highly competitive in 2026 (maybe not as good without Skubal... but almost as good) AND VERY HIGHLY competitive for the next 5-10 years because Harris is able to EXTRACT such a haul... I think that outranks 2026 Skubal plus pick. I think it would be malpractice, if Harris can get such a haul, to NOT trade Skubal. But I have to be correct and there is just such a haul (or damn close to it) as I outlined above with the Dodgers and the Phillies. And I'm STILL waffling because I would love to have Skubal in 2026. But then again...

I like this idea!!!

I've been charting Manning's relief appearances... He pitched only 1 inning between June 28th and July 20th... three weeks. I'm assuming he was injured for the most part during this period. On June 28th he got rocked for 6 runs in 1 2/3 innings. I assume he was pitching injured... or else he had to "go back to school" to fix whatever was "broken"? But outside of that one appearance: From June 1st through July 20th, including July 20th but not June 28th: he had 12 appearances for 15 1/3 inn's, giving up 9 hits, 5 ER's, 2 HR's. 2.93 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 9.4 K's/9 and 4.1 BB's/9 for a 2.4 K-BB ratio... Small sample size. The walks are still a problem. No expectations from me whatsoever. But maybe he has a chance? Maybe the Org thinks he does? I wish they would have stuck him in the bullpen earlier... Like... last year.

I thought Sweeney was brought in because Jackson is a RH'er...?