Tenacious D

Here’s the other guy that was in the conversation

Mike Schmidt's early career (not suggesting Tork will be a HOF'er, but that even some of the greats struggled):

Agree—you only take him in a salary dump where the Yankees add a nice prospect to the deal.

Kreidler experienced the same last year after he was promoted to AAA.

He might see a game in Detroit before his bro does.

I could be wrong, but I believe Chafin has a player option for next year. I'd be shocked if he opted to come back to this shit-show.

I guess that excludes Harold Castro and Kody Clemens.

As has been pointed out, will be interesting to see which Tigers can't gain entry for the upcoming series. God forbid it's any of our starting pitchers.

agree. our blackhole of a lineup/player positions would force this move. really inexcusable this far into the rebuild.

admittedly, I have an irrational interest in the guy. So much upside, and I've always felt that injuries have stunted his development. Elite speed and defense--if he could just hit .250, he'd be able to play in the league for 10 years or so.

agree. obviously, today's start might be helpful as a potential suitor can see him in person, as well as any scouts who might be in attendance. Not saying a team will make a decision on one game, but if he dazzles, it can only help.

have to respect the organization--they always seem relevant.

I was kind of being tongue-in-cheek. More of a commentary on the state of young pitcher's health, or at least the Tigers.

this. if we're going to suck, I'd rather see guys struggling who could be part of our future.

Skubal's trade value should be higher because he's already had his TJ surgery, which now seems inevitable for all young pitchers these days. I'd be OK with trading him, if we can get an impact bat or two. However, as we know with Tork, and other can't-miss bats like Kellenic and Hiura (to name a few), nothing is guaranteed. Obviously having some ML success would be a huge plus. I know this sounds crazy to say given all of the health issues we have with pitching, but if you can assume that most will be able to recover, it's still the area of strength for the organization. Hopefully Turnbull and Manning are back next season, Eduardo returns and Mize comes back in 2024. Plenty of wild cards, like Faedo and Brieske, maybe even G. Hill. And others on the way--Madden, Flores, Smith and Hurter. Maybe Olsen, who I'm not as high on as others seem to be, but clearly has some potential. Some of these guys won't pan out or end up in the pen, but we do have both quality and quantity. I've already managed my expectations for 2023--it won't be a great year, but hopefully more positive with player development. .500 would be a realistic goal.

Is this the current rotation? Skubal Hutchinson Hill Alexander (assuming) Who else is healthy? Are we going to have to call up Elvin Rodriguez? this rotation might only be able to win 10-15 games the rest of the season. And all bets are off if Skubal is traded without another pitcher coming back in return. currently injured: Mize, Manning, Turnbull, Pineda, R. Garcia, Brieske. MIA—Eduardo

Jacob Barnes back again, too. Stocking up for a reliever fire sale.

Think Milwaukee might be interested again?

Is Bevacqua in the lineup?

Based on scouting reports, he shouldn’t be so upset about his gloves.

Gracias. I missed that.

Donde esta Tanner Kohlhepp (‘21 draftee)?

In fairness, it’s not a full season yet, so the comparisons shouldn’t matter. That doesn’t take anything away from what he’s doing, though.

My mistake-Hurter had 10 starts in Lakeland before getting promoted to WM.

Do you think he’s too old/advanced to be pitching in High A? I didn’t, considering this was his first professional experience. I guess we’ll see when he moves to Erie, either this season or next.