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right, i agree. the difference is what that punishment should be and the rhetoric around what happened. i dont think this is a big deal because of the reality of sign stealing being legal and everyone doing it. for practical purposes there is little edge gained by michigan over what ohio state did. in fact, i would say what ohio state did was more effective. which is not to say ohio state should be punished because what they did was within the rules. i propose to you that the reason behind the "no in person scouting" rule is antiquated. it is a rule to protect smaller colleges who dont have the means to send scouts to opposing games from the big schools (like say, all the big ten schools...even purdue!) who could send multiple scouts like nfl teams do. the idea that this is the worst scandal in big ten history, or even a scandal at all, is a media creation and the failure of the big ten commissioner to get his conference under control (and that includes getting michigan under control).

without harbaugh and with all the injuries after the maryland game, michigan is probably an underdog in this game.

they were losing 28-0 before they got a first down! a guard and a running back dont make that kind of difference. you guys are funny.

the idea that david montgomery and jonah jackson would have made a difference in that baltimore game is absurd. do they play defense? come on.

fair enough.

and this year worry about not having one of the best coaches in football on the sideline.

you dont show anything in the game before the game. they looked terrible against illinois last year too. worry about the things we should have been worried about all year: michigan's offensive tackles no super athletic receivers pedestrian pass rush only one really athletic cornerback ohio state's receivers

i guess we have different ideas on what the "long term institutional objectives" of the university of michigan are. this is not meant in any way as a criticism of you or anyone else working to educate students at michigan. however, when i see tuition rates increasing multiple folds, when i see universities substitute foreign students for in state students because they pay more, when i see schools increasing class sizes and decreasing professors, increasing the use of cheap grad students or non-tenured faculty and paying them a pittance, increasing the size of the administrative bloat at the university with provost after meaningless provost, and sitting on billion dollar endowments that they use for junkets and new administration buildings and fancy athletic complexes, i find it hard to believe that the actual "mission" of the university of michigan is anything other than to make money for the university and the bureaucrats who run it. in that respect, having "student" employees who play football to advertise the university and make its big money alumni happy and donating more into the machine that is the "university of michigan", this new world fits right in. "the bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy." that's the university system right now.

in fairness to the pistons, they are missing two starters in morris and bogey. one who would theoretically take some of the playmaking load off cade and the other who would provide floor spacing. cant really judge how the team looks until/if those guys come back. that said, with the weakest draft in memory on tap its almost a guarantee the pistons win the lottery. compare them with houston. they have accumulated #1 picks and took green, seguin, thompson, and jabari smith. we accumulated first rounders and took cade, ivey, killian, bey, stewart, and thompson. green and cade are different players with different roles so its hard to compare. seguin is a better player than stewart, imo. our thompson has looked better than there's. smith has been very up and down as has ivey. and we traded bey for the ultimate waste of space. houston spent money on vanvleet and brooks. we traded our cap space/assets to get bogey, bagley, wiseman, morris, deandre jordan, burkes, and joe harris. there's your difference, right? they took their cap space to get a solid point guard starter and an agitating role player and we traded ours for second round picks, big men washouts, and two injured players. not sure which is the best LONG term plan, but in the short term we really look bad compared to them.

cleveland sat donovan mitchell. atlanta sat trae young. teams are resting their best guys against the pistons and still beating them rather easily.

what is the difference between what michigan is accused of doing and what ohio state did? ohio state (and illinois and purdue) was given a list of michigan's signs by greg schiano and rutgers. signs they stole in person at the game. in theory, what is the difference between that and conor stalions taking a video on his phone and using that to steal signs? the only difference i can see is that what schiano did has been going on since time immemorial. bert bielema, in his rant against michigan, stated when he was a grad assistant he cut his teeth stealing signs. that was one of his jobs. other people i know who worked as grad assistants for college football teams (illinois) told me the same thing. and then they passed those signs to other GAs on other teams. thats legal and part of football world. people i know who played major college football told me similar stuff. they had the other team's signs all the time. a lot of times it didnt really help. so i ask what is the actual real difference between that practice and what michigan did? in today's day and age of all-22 videos and everything being on tv? and if there is a real difference, what is the significant competitive advantage that michigan gained by doing it as opposed to just having the signs handed to them by another team? i dont really see one but i dont play football so i dont know if im missing something.

not sure why would give osu that many points considering they had michigan's signs... 🙂

and then they rally to cut it to 8. lol. even emoni bates got in the game.

cant wait for the piston beat writers' articles about how the loss was expected because we didnt have joe harris and bogdan bogdanovich. donovan mitchell? who? how can we be expected to keep the game in single digits without isaiah livers!!!!!

so cleveland sat their best player tonight against detroit, eh? what a surprise.

every year we have "tons of cap space" and every year its frittered away on projects, has beens, and never wuzzes, all to get an occasional second round pick. deandre jordan, joe harris, etc etc. are we building up to something? its year 4, were down a first round pick, and we've already traded away one of our own first round players for garbage. so what's the plan?

2 games?

listen to the podcast. that's where its from.

the league favoring the leafs? unheard of. next thing you know you'll tell me teams from new york, los angeles, and chicago move up in the lottery!

if lavine comes to detroit he just chucks up 25 shots a game and says "this is my team." my fear is that gores forces a premature trade because the team is so bad. like they did with blake.

as reported by the numerous leaks from his conversations with michigan following his call with ryan walters and the rest of the hypocrites that make up the big ten coaching fraternity.

or the michigan sexual abuse case, the michigan state sexual abuse case, or the ohio state sexual abuse case or domesric violence cover up. pettiti said it was the biggest scandal in big ten history. another thing he has done poorly.

im sure other teams are stealing signs. that's the issue. i dont think what stalions did was anything special or different or more effective. the ncaa pretty mich agreed two years ago.

you cant compare devin achane to travis kelce. come on. if tyreek hill was out, that would be a valid comparison.