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No, more like a pair top 40 and a top 100 prospect-not 2 top 10.

I think Lwan actually is a type who would get a couple top 100 prospects-under cheap control for multiple years beyond this one-too rich for me and our team needs.

No one takes away an average of .5 hits per game let alone 2-3.

difference between asking and what you’ll get. Twins don’t have to move Duran with 2 plus years affordable control. He is the type I’d consider anyone but our top 3 (Rainer being my #3)

Interesting swapping Flaherty and Skubal to give Skubal a full week between starts. Edited: Actually it's probably to give him more time with his wife and newborn.

Yep, only way a top 100 goes is for multiple years of control of a dominant closer - IE Duran. I don't include Bednar because as recent as 2025 he was sent to the minors (and was awful in 2024).

I guess I took it different based on the comparison they did between the 2 when both were healthy earlier in the season, but I can see how it is likely the way you say.

Love Kwan, but wouldn't want to give what it would take to get him (with multiple years of control) when our OF isn't much of a need.

An interesting stat, we scored 6 of Kenley Jansen's 13 ER allowed this year in that 2/3 inning appearance. Take out that Game and he's got a 1.64 ERA. Not the high K guy, but he is 1K shy of 9K/9. I'd rather have Helsley of the rental arms, but Jansen wouldn't be awful. (I don't see the Red Sox selling as they are in the 3rd wild card, but Chapman would be my top rental reliever if he were available.)

Yeah, no thanks. This would be a massive overpay, not to mention it's been reported the Tigers have zero interest in Hayes. BA just said Rainer, if he didn't get hurt, had a realistic chance to be rated higher than Konnor Griffin who is their #1 ranked prospect currently - in other words he isn't getting moved to Pittsburgh unless Skenes is coming back: The Skinny: One of two high profile prep shortstops in the 2024 draft, Rainer hasn’t had the rise of Konnor Griffin in 2025, but if not for a season-ending shoulder injury he might have ranked even higher. Rainer is an advanced hitting shortstop with a plus power-hitting peak. Bednar is the only one of the bunch I'd really want and I think he's more likely to cost something like Jung and Anderson/Hamm than he is one of our top 6. They aren't also aren't trading Vierling.

And depending on what ranking site, 0 were.

I really would like to substitute someone or 2 for Melton if possible but would probably do that deal.

They did-today for Paddock.

Why don’t we get all the Twins pitchers. Ryan, Duran, and Jax for one of Clark/McGonigle, 1 of Briceno/Rodriguez, Jung, Hamm, and another pitching prospect of choice -preferably not Melton, but ok with Montero. 3 difference making pitchers under control for 2 plus seasons-would cost a lot, but this would be the type return I’d be good with parting with 2 of our top 6.

Except TJ would be elbow.

I definitely won't be happy if this is all they do (I don't think it is), but I don't hate it either for the reasons you say. Have one of Melton or SGL replace Montero in the rotation and the other to the pen and you've gained at least 1 high K reliever.

Melton can move to the pen and give a high K/9 potential. Same with SGL I guess.

Well in relief in 2023, he had 14.4 K/9..........of course it was 2 appearances for a total of 5 IP.

Similar to last year, and makes sense as a catcher handling a pitching staff. Similar to Dingler's adjustments to new leagues.

Here was the write up on Rainer - for reference Konnor Griffin is their #1 overall prospect The Skinny: One of two high profile prep shortstops in the 2024 draft, Rainer hasn’t had the rise of Konnor Griffin in 2025, but if not for a season-ending shoulder injury he might have ranked even higher. Rainer is an advanced hitting shortstop with a plus power-hitting peak

Current slump, yes. Previous 140 games, this team was so balanced they didn’t have a losing streak greater than 3 games and had the best record in baseball. When basically every hitter and pitcher is slumping at once, it will look bad. The rotation overall is solid. The hitters as a whole are solid. The base running has been exceptional (can’t tell in this slump as they aren’t on base) The bullpen has needed swing and miss all season (and last). 140 games says a lot more about who they are than the last 11. They need a breakout, to stop pressing, and get back to working counts on offense, and pitchers not letting innings blow up. They still need bullpen help (and yes, Bednar may have prevented Tommy K from being blown up immediately after it happened before.

Bowden is known for vastly overestimating what players will get in a trade-he seems to still be thinking it is like when he was last GM. for perspective 0 top 100 prospects were traded at last years deadline. In 2023, 3 were with the highest rank being #72. 2022 was the anomaly-8 were but 3 of them were in the Juan Soto trade when he was under control for 2 1/2 years. And 2 were for a Luis Castillo under control for at least 3 1/2 years 2021 3 were 2020 -1 #73 All the way back to 2018, 0 top 10 prospects were traded, 5 top 25, 5 26-50 referenced from Baseball America article

I’d do 1 of them (or Rainer) and one of Briceno, Liranzo, C Rod plus more from the rest of our system

And the goal is setting the major league team up for the highest probability sustained success meaning the chance of competing for championships. So again, I don’t trade the top prospects for a 1 time chance, or someone who isn’t an impact player, but if I can get proven difference makers at positions of need under affordable control for multiple years, then they probably have the highest probability of meeting the aforementioned goal. (And I probably make it a top 6 with Rodriguez being #6 due to his high upside-not trading him for the rentals that are on the market.)

I honestly probably value Liranzo higher than Briceno-1 year older, can stick at C, switch hitter, even with slow start at AA (similar to last year at high A) has above average OPS. Fits timeline of Rogers hitting FA. If it’s me, I’m not trading him for a rental.