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real life is not a video game. When has he or anyone suggested that trades and FA signings won't happen. Just because they don't happen on your timeline doesn't mean the process is flawed. It's ****ing June 7 and the team is over .500 and everybody here acts like it's the 2003 Tigers.

maybe he is looking into those guys and can't make a deal. POint is, he doesn't hold a press conference and announce his actions on trades not made. You guys are criticizing him for something that you only suspect isn't happening, without any proof. You have created this make believe caricature of Scott Harris.

It doesn't pass the smell test that someone would take a POBO and be gunshy or afraid to fail. Fans just have to see a conspiracy somewhere. Maybe the possible trades are ones he didn't think improved the org.

I don't know the process in FL of certification but if Biden were to win a close race I struggle to see some GOP people just going "Ok, cool." then rubber stamp the results. I can envision election offices being raided and ballots spoiled for any recount then we get a crisis.

the lack of those trades being made is what shoots it down. Scott isn't doing what you propose because other organizations dont want to. Think about what you are suggesting. Trades aren't being made. The possible reasons for that: 1) Scott doesn't want to. That assumes he took this job and the org made all these hires in the front office and change in staff but he's just being stubborn and doesn't want to improve the team in some sinister plot to make the team suffer because that looks great on a resume. 2) He's stupid and doesn't know how to do it 3) The teams are not seeing a fit in potential trade offers.

and i'm arguing our system doesn't have enough of what other teams need to justify making that deal. Who in the system are you willing to sacrifice and what do you think they would net in return?

yes they are allowed but when the other side is just as smart or smarter then they can be more difficult. I don't buy a magic bullet theory where Scott and his team have the ability to find a gem that other orgs don't know about. Most of the orgs are pretty smart, except Chicago. That's not a criticism but when you say AA wasn't a good GM and then use his trades where he sent over a good young player as proof that your new GM can acquire good players at any time..... that's kind of a contradiction unless Al Avila got a new job somewhere and you can snooker him.

The parts in bold relate to each other.... Tampa got Paredes from us because Avila wasn't good at trades.

Then in 6 years when their life stinks they'll say "Both sides are the same..."

DeSantis and his cronies will play dirty trying to prevent any unfavorable results from becoming official. That's what worries me the most in this election cycle. Too many times in the process things get certified by previously anonymous civil servants and at some point that machine will break and we'll see challenges, unfounded, and bad actors.

That's great.

I think other teams are pretty smart too and have also gotten better at evaluating prospects over the last 15 years especially, which makes the prospect for ML talent deals rarer, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think we see them as often today as we used to. I reject that they can acquire a good young player at will as you suggest. The other team has to be willing to give that player to the Tigers and the only reason they'd do so is if the Tigers had something to offer to make them want to do that. And if the Tigers had something to offer then why are they making the deal? It takes two orgs to agree on a trade and overall fans think their own teams have the upper hand and can make trades like it's a video game. Who in the system should the Tigers have moved to get a good player?

Is the help they are getting the result of “socialism”?

I’m still haven’t been convinced by anyone the last year or so who exactly Harris should have signed or traded for (and with that?). There isn’t a GM store with items you need. You can’t trade a lot of crap for something mediocre.

Adduci runs the commisioner's office. He has things worked out just the way he wants. All these legit companies are just props for his real action.

High qualty players like Phil Mickelson, Jordan, and Tiger Woods get a high from gambling that is probably the same trigger that made them so good what they do. It's not difficult to imagine some MLB players having the same thing. It's just a matter of time.

I think yes... unless the return makes the major league team better. I don't think he's going to be flipping guys for prospects anymore. No more Daz Camerons.

The think these kids just like those scarves.... that's whey they are doing it. They can wear those. It's like soccer fans. They care more about telling us they are soccer fans than they do about just enjoying their 1-0 game.

Got hosed on that call.

Maeda taken out with injury Welp. At least it’s scoreless.

I was a wrestling fan in the early and mid 80's so I knew about them. Right around when David died is when I started watching. They would show that particular outfit on ESPN and I got the magazines. The movie was really good. My wife enjoyed it too, she is a fan of Jeremy Allen White and was immediately roped into the story. They did a good job telling it from that angle and not just make it a wrestling movie. The scenes in the ring were just long enough to tell the point without dragging it on. As with most stories about real things they changed some things, but Kevin was ok with it. They are not making a documentary. There was a younger son they completely left out, Chris. He also committed suicide. And the timelines were a little off. Kerry didn't lose his foot until a few years after winning the title. And he was married and had kids. He developed a painkiller addiction after his accident and was facing jail time over a second arrest, that's what prompted the suicide. The only thing I wish could be different in the movie, which is nobody's fault, is White was too short for Kerry. It matters somewhat because he was towering and rumor is if Vince McMahon couldn't get Hulk HOgan to lead his expansion he was going to use Kerry because he had the Adonis look. But it's hard to find guys who can act, have the body, and be able to do what's needed in the ring so it's not a big deal. But he had a presence in the ring that was pretty large. I never knew about his foot until his WWF days in like 1991. They kept it a secret. He'd shower with his boots on so the other guys didn't know.

Only if he gets a good ML player in return.

I also remember going from a 300 to 600 baud modem... maybe even a 1200. That is what got me hooked on message boards. There were "sites" you could call and trade games and some hosted boards. In the spring of 1990 somebody went on a collecting kick and bought all of my equipment for around $300. I had to work as a kid for all of my stuff but with baseball season coming up I wouldn't be able to so that financed my spring. Later on a relative had their old C64 in storage and I got it up and running and was able to play some of the old games. Then it crapped out and I threw it away in a purge. I still get a kick out of messing around with some emulators and there's youtube videos going through the games. Maniac Mansion baby!

In 1988 a friend of mine traded a 10MB external hard drive to someone for 4 Iron Maiden CD's. Growing up I had a C-64 and in 1992 I bought a 40 MB 386 system for about $800.

I’m think Gardenhire is as all marketing. The team will suck so let’s get someone to fake legitimacy.