Gun Legislation, Crime, and Events

[mtutiger]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

It's really sad what has happened to this country the last ten years, but I suppose it's been that way a lot longer and I just didn't see it.  

The thing that gets me is how in our case the noxious bull**** we choose to endure doesn't, materially, make us any better off. 

Eight months in, on top of all the macro items G2 listed in his final sentence, from a policy standpoint the average American is materially poorer and worse off. Whether it be from the OBBB, extremely high tariff rates being imposed, inflation (some caused by the tariffs, some by other factors). We've had roving gangs of federal officials in multiple cities, despite the fact that the American public largely doesn't want it. Vital parts of the government, including now the CDC, are on fire... expertise is leaving, and if we have another pandemic anytime soon, we are boned. The list goes on and on.

It'd be one thing if the cultural nihilism came with economic policies that were more beneficial (and popular).... but these guys are all stick and literally no carrot. There's no real reward for any of it, just a more divided, more inequal society and a government that exists to serve Donald Trump's vengeance and not it's people.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Edman85 said:

The "mental health" cries fall on deaf ears after all the slashing done to mental health programs this year. If they truly believed that as a cause, they would actually prioritize it instead of callously slashing that funding. Unfortunately, Americans have the memory span of an amnesic goose and words speak louder than actions.

Evil people, the GOP right now.

I think most people could see this definitely brewing during the Bush Jr. years. A lot of us could see it starting during the Reagan years.

The irony is that today’s younger MAGAs, who call themselves Republicans and even “conservative” (as if), think of Reagan not as a icon of the party to be revered, but as an irrelevant relic of the past to be discarded, the way people during the Reagan years thought of FDR. To them, Reagan is not a hero—he’s the original RINO. Young MAGAs actually revere Nixon as Trump’s true predecessor.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

The Republicans have always cut mental health and substance abuse treatment programs since I've been in the field.  It might not always make the headlines, but it always happens.  This year, more than others though.  

They think all people have to do to get off drugs is pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get a goddamn job. These crackheads don’t need government money to get a little gumption. The new federal government guidance is going to be: it also wouldn’t hurt to give your life over to Jesus.

Edited Friday at 01:06 PM by chasfh

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

The thing that gets me is how in our case the noxious bull**** we choose to endure doesn't, materially, make us any better off. 

Eight months in, on top of all the macro items G2 listed in his final sentence, from a policy standpoint the average American is materially poorer and worse off. Whether it be from the OBBB, extremely high tariff rates being imposed, inflation (some caused by the tariffs, some by other factors). We've had roving gangs of federal officials in multiple cities, despite the fact that the American public largely doesn't want it. Vital parts of the government, including now the CDC, are on fire... expertise is leaving, and if we have another pandemic anytime soon, we are boned. The list goes on and on.

It'd be one thing if the cultural nihilism came with economic policies that were more beneficial (and popular).... but these guys are all stick and literally no carrot. There's no real reward for any of it, just a more divided, more inequal society and a government that exists to serve Donald Trump's vengeance and not it's people.

Yeah but Biden was 3 years older than Trump. Is having competent leadership really worth not having daily press conferences? We are so back! 

[CMRivdogs]

31 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think most people could see this definitely brewing during the Bush Jr. years. A lot of us could see it starting during the Reagan years.

The irony is that today’s younger MAGAs, who call themselves Republicans and even “conservative” (as if), think of Reagan not as a icon of the party to be revered, but as an irrelevant relic of the past to be discarded, the way people during the Reagan years thought of FDR. To them, Reagan is not a hero—he’s the original RINO. Young MAGAs actually revere Nixon as Trump’s true predecessor.

Compared to today's "conservatives" Nixon was pretty moderate. At least on domestic issues. If I remember 16 year old me, it was Viet Nam where he was hawkish. Watergate did him in but that was nowhere near what Trump has done in the past 8 months to this country.

I don't know, it's been a downhill slide a while now. MAGAs make Birchers look like choirboys. 
 

BTW Goldwater was right.

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Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”

 

[Tigeraholic1]

18 hours ago, chasfh said:

 

 

Edited Friday at 07:46 PM by Tigeraholic1

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

 

Republicans care more about protecting guns than Donald Trump. 

[CMRivdogs]

MAGAholic is really bad at this. He needs to stick to tiddly winks

[mtutiger]

15 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

 

 

 

 

[mtutiger]

I absolutely loathe doing it, but if certain folks want to make it everything about identity, there's no shortage of RWNJs that can be highlighted for their actions.

[Tigeraholic1]

53 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

 

 

 

[smr-nj]

so this person had been all over social media with atrocious Hate messages to all groups, including the president himself

Where was Thomas Fugate and his group? Doesn’t this fall under his responsibility to have people in his department monitoring hate speech and this kind of “terrorism“?

where’s his responsibility? Anybody asking that?
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“The White House appointed Fugate, a former Trump campaign worker who interned at the hard-right Heritage Foundation, to a Homeland Security role that was expanded to include the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships. Known as CP3, the office has led nationwide efforts to prevent hate-fueled attacks, school shootings and other forms of targeted violence.”

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Why aren’t we asking Thomas Fugate for his reports from his people. He’s in charge, right? This would be under his purview.

*** crickets ***

[mtutiger]

2 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Oh wow... The cover of a right wing rag! Sick bern bro!

Don't you ever stop to ask yourself how pointless and nihilistic your obsession with identity politics is?

Edited Saturday at 03:03 PM by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

22 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Oh wow... The cover of a right wing rag! Sick bern bro!

Don't you ever stop to ask yourself how pointless and nihilistic your obsession with identity politics is?

The common denominator to Christian school shootings being Trans folks. I was not going to comment until Edman thought it would be fun to make a joke about the murdered kids. Weird coming from a guy scared of lightning...

[GalagaGuy]

Homework assignment!

1.  Tell us how many school shootings there have been in the last 30 years.

2.  Tell us how many school shootings have been carried out by a person identifying as transgender.

3.  Express your answer as a percentage.  

 

 

[Motown Bombers]

38 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Homework assignment!

1.  Tell us how many school shootings there have been in the last 30 years.

2.  Tell us how many school shootings have been carried out by a person identifying as transgender.

3.  Express your answer as a percentage.  

 

 

 

[Edman85]

54 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The common denominator to Christian school shootings being Trans folks. I was not going to comment until Edman thought it would be fun to make a joke about the murdered kids. Weird coming from a guy scared of lightning...

I didn't make a joke... Or I should say I wasn't trying to be funny so much as poignant. There's nothing funny about school shootings, but the outrage from the right directed at them does not scale with their outrage toward social issues in schools.

[pfife]

This shooting happened *after* the right removed litter boxes from schools so the blood is on the right hand

[oblong]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The common denominator to Christian school shootings being Trans folks. I was not going to comment until Edman thought it would be fun to make a joke about the murdered kids. Weird coming from a guy scared of lightning...

The only joke here is you. 

[Edman85]

Yeah, I went back and read this and don't see how it is construed as a joke and not a poignant take on the right wing outrage machine.

[GalagaGuy]

My biggest takeaway from this most recent school shooting is how f*cked up it is for preteen kids to be forced into daily mandated prayer sessions.  Guess indoctrination is okay when you're the one doing it.  

[Tiger337]

5 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 Weird coming from a guy scared of lightning...

Do you feel the same way about 2A people who walk around with guns all day because they are afraid of society?  

[Tigeraholic1]

5 hours ago, Edman85 said:

I didn't make a joke... Or I should say I wasn't trying to be funny so much as poignant. There's nothing funny about school shootings, but the outrage from the right directed at them does not scale with their outrage toward social issues in schools.

Very tender thoughts you shared.

 "Poignant" describes something that causes a feeling of sadness or regret, often with a touch of tenderness

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Tigeraholic1

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Do you feel the same way about 2A people who walk around with guns all day because they are afraid of society?  

Its is a right until its not I guess.

[Tiger337]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Its is a right until its not I guess.

And protecting yourself from lightning is not a right?