Trumps Presidency 2025

[Tiger337]

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Newsom doesn't type those posts, but it's still funny.

[Tiger337]

24 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Costs in general are going to be a big piece of this upcoming election, but with energy in particular, the hostility that this administration has toward renewable forms of energy (in light of the AI boom / data centers, how much energy they suck up) is so illogical. 

my utility costs went sky high this year which has nothing to do with Trump, but I am happy to blame him.  

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

my utility costs went sky high this year which has nothing to do with Trump, but I am happy to blame him.  

My perspective on this is influenced a little bit by the fact that we purchased a house that had panels put on them by the previous owner (so we avoided a lot of the upfront costs, currently reaping the benefits), but it's been a bit shocking how much the arrangement has benefited us relative to paying market rates for energy.

Bigger picture, I understand that solar and wind can't be done to scale at this point, I am a realist, but I just don't understand hostility towards the idea of generating more electricity when there are more and more demands on the system with every passing day. It's insane.

[pfife]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

The dude has always been a narcissist.... if you have one in your life, you know it even if you aren't qualified to clinically diagnose.

But now? He's a narcissist who is senile. Every single day you see him going forward will be him at his best.... what a scary ****ing thought.

Im having a hard time finding the peace slump created.

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Newsom doesn't type those posts, but it's still funny.

This administration is awful, it is deadly serious.

But the absolute best way to combat them is to mock the ever loving **** out of them. And I don't understand why we don't see it more.... Newsom does it, maybe Pritzker to a degree, but largely non-existent beyond that.

Edited Friday at 04:36 AM by mtutiger

[romad1]

 

[oblong]

8 hours ago, mtutiger said:

This administration is awful, it is deadly serious.

But the absolute best way to combat them is to mock the ever loving **** out of them. And I don't understand why we don't see it more.... Newsom does it, maybe Pritzker to a degree, but largely non-existent beyond that.

 

I hate to say it because I know many here read them and post about them but the folks from places like Bulwark aren't really accomplishing anything.  I'm not suggesting they have a job to do to elect democrats but their readers and viewers have to realize that just talking about things in a way that's framed from a pre trump world will not reach the required people to the degree to win elections.   I'm talking about sunday talk shows, nightly talk shows, etc.   We can preach all we want about how horrible he is and his admin is but you need a D congress to begin to attack it. As long as they rubber stamp his ideas then they will become laws.

The game plan different now.  The scoring system is different.  It's cricket vs baseball.  

 

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, oblong said:

 

I hate to say it because I know many here read them and post about them but the folks from places like Bulwark aren't really accomplishing anything.  I'm not suggesting they have a job to do to elect democrats but their readers and viewers have to realize that just talking about things in a way that's framed from a pre trump world will not reach the required people to the degree to win elections.   I'm talking about sunday talk shows, nightly talk shows, etc.   We can preach all we want about how horrible he is and his admin is but you need a D congress to begin to attack it. As long as they rubber stamp his ideas then they will become laws.

The game plan different now.  The scoring system is different.  It's cricket vs baseball.  

 

yup. Trumps opponents need to understand once and for all, crystal clear, that the things they find are so horrible about Trump don't bother Trump voters at all. They'd do better to forget all the moral outrage and just hammer him on inflation - and they should really be hitting a "Tariffs are Taxes" arg - repeat it every single time they can find a microphone, because the only the right hates more than libs are taxes. This is an attack vector that they are completely missing, but it's one of the few that would actually play to the right. Don't even uses the word "Tariff", ALWAYS call them "IMPORT TAXES!!"

Edited Friday at 01:08 PM by gehringer_2

[romad1]

You can't do Project 2025 without a skilled propaganda effort preceding it for 25 years+.  Recovering from the current destruction of Democracy will require a lot of similar propaganda.  Cut the knees out from the Bulwark or whatever other outfit that is trying to bring the Old Republic back from the Empire all you like but don't call it progress to do so. 

[romad1]

Gavin Newsom says that Trump team sent him a Trump 2028 Hat with a note warning him about its implications

He's not the Hero we want, he's the hero we need?   He's going to redistrict California to end the Trump presidency.  

[RatkoVarda]

extra racist today.

 

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, mtutiger said:

The dude has always been a narcissist.... if you have one in your life, you know it even if you aren't qualified to clinically diagnose.

But now? He's a narcissist who is senile. Every single day you see him going forward will be him at his best.... what a scary ****ing thought.

Meaning he is becoming even more manipulable by the likes of Stephen Miller. Scariest thought of all.

[romad1]

Extra creepy and insincere

 

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Costs in general are going to be a big piece of this upcoming election, but with energy in particular, the hostility that this administration has toward renewable forms of energy (in light of the AI boom / data centers, how much energy they suck up) is so illogical. 

Burying the lede here ...

JUST BLAME TRUMP, ALREADY!

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, mtutiger said:

My perspective on this is influenced a little bit by the fact that we purchased a house that had panels put on them by the previous owner (so we avoided a lot of the upfront costs, currently reaping the benefits), but it's been a bit shocking how much the arrangement has benefited us relative to paying market rates for energy.

Bigger picture, I understand that solar and wind can't be done to scale at this point, I am a realist, but I just don't understand hostility towards the idea of generating more electricity when there are more and more demands on the system with every passing day. It's insane.

People are generally afraid of technology they didn't grow up with?

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, pfife said:

Im having a hard time finding the peace slump created.

The peace part is he's not dropping nukes on anyone.

Yet.

[romad1]

11 hours ago, mtutiger said:

My perspective on this is influenced a little bit by the fact that we purchased a house that had panels put on them by the previous owner (so we avoided a lot of the upfront costs, currently reaping the benefits), but it's been a bit shocking how much the arrangement has benefited us relative to paying market rates for energy.

Bigger picture, I understand that solar and wind can't be done to scale at this point, I am a realist, but I just don't understand hostility towards the idea of generating more electricity when there are more and more demands on the system with every passing day. It's insane.

I'm looking forward to doing this when i retire back home.  I am willing to put up some of the funds myself just to have the generator backup power.  

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

yup. Trumps opponents need to understand once and for all, crystal clear, that the things they find are so horrible about Trump don't bother Trump voters at all. They'd do better to forget all the moral outrage and just hammer him on inflation - and they should really be hitting a "Tariffs are Taxes" arg - repeat it every single time they can find a microphone, because the only the right hates more than libs are taxes. This is an attack vector that they are completely missing, but it's one of the few that would actually play to the right. Don't even uses the word "Tariff", ALWAYS call them "IMPORT TAXES!!"

The main problem I can think of with calling them "import taxes" is that it lets Trump off the hook for them. They can easily argue that tariffs are not import taxes because countries pay tariffs, not consumers, and that argument flies with an under-educated electorate. Perhaps even calling them "import taxes" will hurt Democrats, since it's Democrats who love imports, while real Americans prefer American-made.

I'm thinking calling them "tariff taxes" might work better.

[chasfh]

9 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Extra creepy and insincere

 

It's funny because Trump doesn't even love children. They're just another tool for him.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

12 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Costs in general are going to be a big piece of this upcoming election, but with energy in particular, the hostility that this administration has toward renewable forms of energy (in light of the AI boom / data centers, how much energy they suck up) is so illogical. 

I think if Democrats in Michigan were smart they hammer DTE and Consumers Energy over and over again. Not a single soul in Metro Detroit accept bought and paid for politicians and the propaganda machine at DTE actually likes DTE and the service they provide. DTE is universally loathed because of their terribly unreliable service, lack on investments in the grid, and shoddy customer service. Ann Arbor is taking the right approach by pushing the more reliable, more cost effective public power option. While I'd like to see all of the SE Michigan area get onboard with public power like Ann Arbor is looking at doing, at a minimum, Democratic politicians from Michigan should be using big utilities like DTE as a boogyman and pledge to better regulate them and not take any corporate pac money from utilities.

[romad1]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

It's funny because Trump doesn't even love children. They're just another tool for him.

He loves having sex with them. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

12 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Mockery, humiliation, ridicule, and cutting dictators down to size is often one of the most effective ways to take down their power and reduce their effectiveness. Gavin Newsom has been doing a really good job on all fronts there lately. I think it is working to an extent and I'd like to see more Democrats laugh at Trump.

Edited Friday at 03:29 PM by Mr.TaterSalad

[romad1]

from the above interview with heather cox richardson, she says that JD Vance is pushing the Epstein story from abroad to knife Trump.  Hmm...

[oblong]

23 minutes ago, romad1 said:

from the above interview with heather cox richardson, she says that JD Vance is pushing the Epstein story from abroad to knife Trump.  Hmm...

Maybe it's different motives but I don't care.  I hope this is true.  I hope everybody involved in that is held to account.  I don't care if it's Trump, Biden, Clinton, Tom Hanks, Ernie Harwell, or Billy Graham, or Mister Rogers.... anybody who is known to have been in that world exploiting children deserve what's coming to them.

 

 

[Motown Bombers]