mtutiger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: If Trump simply returned to first term Trump I think his approval numbers would go up and he would be somewhat less of a drag for the GOP on midterm elections (should we still have them). Trump I is long gone at this point.... it's like comparing apples and bananas. Quote
oblong Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Holocaust museum's wrong. Not every element has to be equal for an analogy to work and for them to claim antisemitism is a perverted use of the word. The point is she was targeted by the state. The point is as this group of people was targeted by the state so many others just went about their lives because it "didn't affect them". It was about others so they ignored it or were passive about it as it was about "those people", just like people are doing today since this is, to some, about other people. The "why" isn't relevant. Its the fact there's a target and the lack of interest in the neighbors in caring about it since it doesn't cross their paths. Quote
mtutiger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Along with Sherman and to a certain extant Grant's no holds barred treatment of the insurgents in the west and south. The big thing about Grant is that he was constantly on *offense*.... certainly while he was in the western theater, but his presence in the eastern theater (previously led by leaders who were ineffective and/or political in nature and constantly reacting to events as opposed to shaping them) changed the tide of the war. It also again gives a moment to drop this quote of his that everyone should internalize about our current moment: Quote "Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what we are going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do." Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, mtutiger said: Miller would be the real prize in all of this, because he's the one driving it all... but this stuff is toxic. And they all know it. 2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: If Trump simply returned to first term Trump I think his approval numbers would go up and he would be somewhat less of a drag for the GOP on midterm elections (should we still have them). We are seeing the result of Trump having chased so many reasonably sane people that used to be in his orbit out of it. Oddly enough probably none with worse result than Ivanka, who being family was someone he would actually listen to, and who, despite being a spoiled wannabe, doesn't to seem to have inherited the Trump crazy gene. Of course that's no doubt the very reason she has gone to earth this term. Quote
romad1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 41 minutes ago, mtutiger said: The big thing about Grant is that he was constantly on *offense*.... certainly while he was in the western theater, but his presence in the eastern theater (previously led by leaders who were ineffective and/or political in nature and constantly reacting to events as opposed to shaping them) changed the tide of the war. It also again gives a moment to drop this quote of his that everyone should internalize about our current moment: Dan Campbell mentality Quote
LaceyLou Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: We are seeing the result of Trump having chased so many reasonably sane people that used to be in his orbit out of it. Oddly enough probably none with worse result than Ivanka, who being family was someone he would actually listen to, and who, despite being a spoiled wannabe, doesn't to seem to have inherited the Trump crazy gene. Of course that's no doubt the very reason she has gone to earth this term. She has kept a very low profile for sure... however her husband is laying out plans for post-war Gaza developments, with T's backing. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I saw a MAGA post pop up in my Facebook feed where this was posted. Is there any logic with these people? With all the extra agents and funding, wouldn’t you think those numbers are ****ty? Quote
romad1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: I saw a MAGA post pop up in my Facebook feed where this was posted. Is there any logic with these people? With all the extra agents and funding, wouldn’t you think those numbers are ****ty? Mel Gibson got his gun back...even after demonstrating his character in Lethal Weapon was not method acting. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) It isn't even accurate, from the Homeland Sec website: “In President Trump’s first year back in office, nearly 3 million illegal aliens have left the U.S. because of the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration, including an estimated 2.2 million self-deportations and more than 675,000 deportations.” And that number is just 2025 Edited 1 hour ago by RedTeamGo! 1 Quote
LaceyLou Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: I saw a MAGA post pop up in my Facebook feed where this was posted. Is there any logic with these people? With all the extra agents and funding, wouldn’t you think those numbers are ****ty? Yup, clearly it has nothing to do with the way in which the current regime is doing things. Nope, not at all. (incidentally there have always been people working to help immigrants gain legal status, especially those brought here as children, and many have argued for decades to find ways to find a pathway to citizenship to those who had been contributing to their communities for decades) Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago The talking heads on TV keep saying thank goodness there is/was so many videos of the murders of innocent citizens in Minnesota. And think about it, even with video proof and investigations not even started, the Trump administration officials rushed to judgment to make the victims appear to be the guilty ones. Pure gaslighting. Don't believe what you see with your eyes, just believe this "story." So yes, thank goodness there are videos to show how much multiple people in this totally corrupt administration lie to the American people. And they don't back off the lies, even when pushed they stick to these lies. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 21 minutes ago Posted 21 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said: I saw a MAGA post pop up in my Facebook feed where this was posted. Is there any logic with these people? With all the extra agents and funding, wouldn’t you think those numbers are ****ty? Weren’t these same people arguing democrats had open borders? Now democrats had stricter borders? Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Weren’t these same people arguing democrats had open borders? Now democrats had stricter borders? If these numbers are correct, they should be loving these former presidents Quote
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