Trumps Presidency 2025

[RatkoVarda]

the MAGA cult and all the grifters will fall in line and embrace war, as long as Trump is degrading and demeaning the Other, that will be enough to sustain their black hearts

it is the Trump-curious people - who voted for him on a lark or because he was an "outsider" or because he was entertaining or because he is a super successful business man or because he was going to cut the price of everything all at once - that he will lose a lot of support from.

[GalagaGuy]

Israel working overtime to stroke Trump's ego so he'll use our bunker busters to go after the Fordo facility.   

[mtutiger]

20 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

it is the Trump-curious people - who voted for him on a lark or because he was an "outsider" or because he was entertaining or because he is a super successful business man or because he was going to cut the price of everything all at once - that he will lose a lot of support from.

Kirk's reaction in particular, with his focus on younger voters, is notable. Because a big component of this cohort is younger voters, specifically young men.

They may have voted for Trump, but this I'm sure isn't what most of them had in mind. If anything, it was the opposite.

[guy incognito]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

 

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[ewsieg]

47 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Israel working overtime to stroke Trump's ego so he'll use our bunker busters to go after the Fordo facility.   

Yup, and if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on them getting it.  That said, yesterday Israel made it clear they didn't need our bunker buster, so I almost wonder if they will send in a small ground unit since they have control of the air already.

[gehringer_2]

there are 4 leaders in the world today who stay in power by stoking conflict to keep their people unified against the "other": Putin, Khamenei, Netanyahu, and Trump.

 

[1776]

Wow! You don’t see this very often:

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said Israel was doing the “dirty work” for other countries by carrying out strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites. “I can only say I have the greatest respect for the fact that the Israeli army and the Israeli government had the courage to do this,” Merz said in comments to German media at the G-7 leaders’ summit in Canada.

[Motown Bombers]

39 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Kirk's reaction in particular, with his focus on younger voters, is notable. Because a big component of this cohort is younger voters, specifically young men.

They may have voted for Trump, but this I'm sure isn't what most of them had in mind. If anything, it was the opposite.

And yet, none of it is surprising and most of it was predicted.  

[slothfacekilla]

17 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

 

It is like they are begging someone to fight back thinking it is a random kidnapping so they can claim they need to escalate to deal with the violence.

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Yup, and if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on them getting it.  That said, yesterday Israel made it clear they didn't need our bunker buster, 

Maybe they bought that thing the Wachowski's had built for tunnelling into Zion.

[Tigermojo]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Maybe they bought that thing the Wachowski's had built for tunnelling into Zion.

We're in the crappy version of the Matrix that humanity rejected. We need to load up the 90s version.

[gehringer_2]

If I were trying to build a bunker buster but didn't have an aircraft capable of carrying a really heavy bomb, i'd build the biggest penetrator I could carry with a rocket booster that would drive it to supersonic velocity before it hit the ground. E=1/2MV^2. when it comes to penetration, you can get back with V what you can't carry in M.

[VegasTiger]

7 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

We're in the crappy version of the Matrix that humanity rejected. We need to load up the 90s version.

We have to get through the Idiocracy timeline before we get to the Matrix timeline.

[ewsieg]

17 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Wow! You don’t see this very often:

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said Israel was doing the “dirty work” for other countries by carrying out strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites. “I can only say I have the greatest respect for the fact that the Israeli army and the Israeli government had the courage to do this,” Merz said in comments to German media at the G-7 leaders’ summit in Canada.

I saw that earlier as well.  Part of it makes me think Israel had good intel and others like Germany agree, part of it makes me wonder if our Intel was off that much or if Gabbard was just touting a directive from Trump when she said we had no indication Iran was working towards a nuclear weapon only a few months ago.

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[romad1]

9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

If I were trying to build a bunker buster but didn't have an aircraft capable of carrying a really heavy bomb, i'd build the biggest penetrator I could carry with a rocket booster that would drive it to supersonic velocity before it hit the ground. E=1/2MV^2. when it comes to penetration, you can get back with V what you can't carry in M.

Spent some time on the Hard and Deeply Buried Defeat Program back in the post-Desert Storm/Pre 9/11 era -- from the program management analysis side.   I recall that there was a threshold speed past which, and depending on the materials in question, that the speed benefit diminishes.  Bullet ballistics people are always finding out weird things wrt penetration with bullets.  

We were working on a conventional ballistic missile penetrator that would use those excessive hypervelocity speeds but I don't know if the ones we looked at were as fast as the ones now.   I'm curious where we are with this tech but not curious enough to want to see it in action.  

[GalagaGuy]

42 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

Yup, and if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on them getting it.  That said, yesterday Israel made it clear they didn't need our bunker buster, so I almost wonder if they will send in a small ground unit since they have control of the air already.

Israel can say that but everything I've read says that they have nothing in their arsenal that can reach those depths.  It's even questioned by some if the bunker busters from the USA can.  Unless Israel is implying they'll launch a ground campaign to take out the site,  they are lying. 

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Spent some time on the Hard and Deeply Buried Defeat Program back in the post-Desert Storm/Pre 9/11 era -- from the program management analysis side.   I recall that there was a threshold speed past which, and depending on the materials in question, that the speed benefit diminishes.  Bullet ballistics people are always finding out weird things wrt penetration with bullets.  

We were working on a conventional ballistic missile penetrator that would use those excessive hypervelocity speeds but I don't know if the ones we looked at were as fast as the ones now.   I'm curious where we are with this tech but not curious enough to want to see it in action.  

One thing I usually take as truth is that for whatever has become public (i.e. GBU-57) there is something next gen waiting to be "trialed."  Probably as true about the IDF.

[ewsieg]

59 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Israel can say that but everything I've read says that they have nothing in their arsenal that can reach those depths.  It's even questioned by some if the bunker busters from the USA can.  Unless Israel is implying they'll launch a ground campaign to take out the site,  they are lying. 

Sounds like even with the largest bunker buster we have, they suspect it might take multiple to penetrate far enough.  If Israel is using theirs, not sure if they just keep hitting the same spot over and over again, but I took it as they might send in ground troops.  Either way, just another escalation on a country that I was recently told by my own country isn't pursuing a nuclear bomb.

[gehringer_2]

8 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

If Israel is using theirs, not sure if they just keep hitting the same spot over and over again

If you can get a laser designator on a spot you can get close enough often enough.

[Motor City Sonics]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

What part of the Mass Deportation rhetoric did he not hear?    **** this guy.    Part of the problem.  Choke on it. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

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[1776]

2 hours ago, ewsieg said:

Sounds like even with the largest bunker buster we have, they suspect it might take multiple to penetrate far enough.  If Israel is using theirs, not sure if they just keep hitting the same spot over and over again, but I took it as they might send in ground troops.  Either way, just another escalation on a country that I was recently told by my own country isn't pursuing a nuclear bomb.

They are not pursuing a nuclear bomb carries the same level of truth as the lie that Saddam Hussein possessed  WMDs. 
I’ll take Mossad’s word over the bull**** in Washington. And I’d say that regardless of party.