Dan Gilmore Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I don’t give him any credit for saying something that is a clear view of a messy situation-because the mess was obvious before he made all his bad decisions and his grasp of things is so weak. Plus he will make new errors on into the future that fail to apply his supposed clarity at the moment. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: I'm in favor of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee announcing that no one is worthy this year.. Give one to Joe Biden just to watch Trump's head explode. Give Trump an award for social media fiction. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 51 minutes ago, ewsieg said: To be honest, this was the first time I felt like he was acting 'presidentially'. Maybe I should change that to say this is the first time I felt like he was talking honestly. Don't get me wrong, I will acknowledge every point of what he did wrong that possibly could have been prevented us from getting into this predicament in the first place. But, based on his response, I do think he felt he had an understanding with Israel that if the US helped, they would stop. He's weak though and Netanyahu took advantage of us. Ultimately this all falls on his feet. This is Trump's war. I do think this was one of the rare times he was genuine, but that just makes him a genuine idiot. 1 1 Quote
oblong Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I don't think he was speaking about this particular issue but overall history. It was lashing out at the middle east in general and the last 70 years. Iran was a proxy for all Arab nations, except of course his Saudi BFF's. Quote
mtutiger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 54 minutes ago, ewsieg said: To be honest, this was the first time I felt like he was acting 'presidentially'. Maybe I should change that to say this is the first time I felt like he was talking honestly. Don't get me wrong, I will acknowledge every point of what he did wrong that possibly could have been prevented us from getting into this predicament in the first place. But, based on his response, I do think he felt he had an understanding with Israel that if the US helped, they would stop. He's weak though and Netanyahu took advantage of us. Ultimately this all falls on his feet. This is Trump's war. I think we're in agreement, but would just add that it's pretty clear that Netanyahu played him like a fiddle... And that he didn't exactly hide the fact that he was playing him leading up to our intervention. Just makes it all the more frustrating. 1 Quote
romad1 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Oil. When the balance of power was in Egypt and Turkey, where culture was deeper and something akin to normal economic development was underway, the Arab world had a chance. But when oil wealth empowered the Wahabi Sheiks and the Persian Shia apocalyptics and shifted the regional leverage, everything started moving backward. Oil wealth has been a curse everywhere it has bubbled up out of the ground. You could probably include Texas in that as well. primary resource abundance has crippled many a country. Only those who get a middle class built with actual education resources can overcome the otherwise oligarchic dominance of the bosses with all the resources and money. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: From the pro life party They are not pro life, not even pro birth anymore. Definitely not Christian (or the way my Presbyterian/Church of the Brethren/Methodist upbringing taught me Quote
romad1 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Trump's mental and physical fitness is being called into question by a lot of observers. His rants are not helping. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, romad1 said: Trump's mental and physical fitness is being called into question by a lot of observers. His rants are not helping. But still many around him still drink the Kool Aid. Just like with Wilson, FDR, JFK (to an extent, and possibly Biden) Quote
CMRivdogs Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, CMRivdogs said: But still many around him still drink the Kool Aid. Just like with Wilson, FDR, JFK (to an extent, and possibly Biden) To clarify, I belief Biden still has most of his facilities needed to be POTUS. I'm not sure he would be good for a full term. The same with Trump, but Vance cares me a lot more than Harris would have. Especially with the teams around them Quote
RatkoVarda Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago every day, JD wakes up like the rest of us asking, is he dead yet? Quote
ewsieg Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Especially with the teams around them <points up> This </points up> Quote
mtutiger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Just an incredible failure.... Quote
Tiger337 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, mtutiger said: Just an incredible failure.... I'm expecting some major gaslighting very soon where they try to convince us that Trump was right about everything he said. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Leavitt calling it an "alleged assessment" and then immediately saying it was "Top Secret" and "leaked" is hilarious. Some people will do anything for a paycheck. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 14 minutes ago Posted 14 minutes ago 1 hour ago, GalagaGuy said: Leavitt calling it an "alleged assessment" and then immediately saying it was "Top Secret" and "leaked" is hilarious. Some people will do anything for a paycheck. Trump once has a spokesperson who called actual facts an "alternate reality." I think it was Kellyanne Conway? I'm not sure what skank factory he finds these people at. Quote
LaceyLou Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago 12 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Trump once has a spokesperson who called actual facts an "alternate reality." I think it was Kellyanne Conway? I'm not sure what skank factory he finds these people at. It was Kellyanne Conway, and was alternative facts... Alternate reality sounds like a lot more fun, though. Quote
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