2025 MLB Thread

[papalawrence]

For me as a fan, it's actually easier to cope following a sweep like in 2012, than to be down to the final 2 outs of game 7 and lose in extras. 2013 still lingers for me. 2012 does not. Blue Jays fans will sting from this until they win it all, which may never happen. 

[lordstanley]

1 hour ago, papalawrence said:

For me as a fan, it's actually easier to cope following a sweep like in 2012, than to be down to the final 2 outs of game 7 and lose in extras. 2013 still lingers for me. 2012 does not. Blue Jays fans will sting from this until they win it all, which may never happen. 

Somewhat similar to the Wings in ‘09 who were up 3-2 in the series but lost both chances to win the Cup. But while the Wings lost Game 7 by a goal, unlike the Jays they never led. Plus Wings fans had 4 recent Cups to fall back on. 

 

[lordstanley]

Jays were 3 for 17 in scoring position. 
Jays left 15 men on base, most ever for a WS Game 7.

Dodgers’ team batting average in the WS was .203, the lowest for a champion since 1966  

 

[lordstanley]

 

I've seen comments comparing it to the 2014 nfc playoff sequence of the Lions losing to Dallas with the controversial picked up flag, Dallas then losing to Green Bay after the throw to Dez Bryant was ruled not to be a catch, then Green Bay losing to Seattle in OT on the pass by Russell Wilson to Jermaine Kearse, then Seattle losing the Super Bowl on the goal line interception.

[tiger2022]

Piss poor managing played a part in the loss.  Schneider trying to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.  Sounds like a Tiger's manager.

[Motown Bombers]

Man, who would have predicted at the beginning of the season the Dodgers would have won the World Series? 

[MichiganCardinal]

I wonder how many more days (months?) every additional Dodgers championship will devoid us of baseball during the incoming lockout.

Cohen, Steinbrenner, and Middleton may be much better served by a surprise emergence next year than a three-peat, which seems quite possible.

[chasfh]

That’s OK, as long as the Tigers didn’t win the pennant or a ring, it doesn’t really matter to me who else won this one.

[chasfh]

 

[Hongbit]

3 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Piss poor managing played a part in the loss.  Schneider trying to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.  Sounds like a Tiger's manager.

Very true.  Lost in all the drama is how poor of a managerial decision that was by John Schneider to bunt IKF with no outs and a runner on 2nd.   Giving away one of your last outs to move a runner that was already in scoring position was so foolish.  It lowered his expected run percentage for the inning.   Tom Wopat could’ve made a better call. 

Also not discussed is the Curse of Don Mattingly.   The baseball gods once again showing their contempt for his nickname.  40 years and going strong. 

Edited November 2 by Hongbit

[Sports_Freak]

I am SO glad I'm not a Blue Jay fan. I was rooting for them but...oh well. F the Dodgers.

[papalawrence]

30 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I am SO glad I'm not a Blue Jay fan. I was rooting for them but...oh well. F the Dodgers.

Being so close and lose sucks. Anything less next year will be such a let down for their fans. Just ask Philly fans. 

[Tiger337]

6 hours ago, chasfh said:

That’s OK, as long as the Tigers didn’t win the pennant or a ring, it doesn’t really matter to me who else won this one.

That gets back to the local fan thing you were talking about.  Fans don't care what happens to other teams.  I think the problem with the Dodgers being too good is overblown.  Regardless of who wins, the fans of 96.7% of teams are going to be disappointed.  That is going to be true regardless of whether or not there is parity.  

[tiger2022]

The outcome of a game never has much of an impact on your life.  People who go psycho over a group of professional athletes playing for millions of dollars really do need to re-assess their lives.

[lordstanley]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

That gets back to the local fan thing you were talking about.  Fans don't care what happens to other teams.  I think the problem with the Dodgers being too good is overblown.  Regardless of who wins, the fans of 96.7% of teams are going to be disappointed.  That is going to be true regardless of whether or not there is parity.  

I think villains and mini-dynasties are good for the game. Win or lose, the fact that guys like Ohtani and Yamamoto and Betts were playing last night made it seem grander. If the Jays had won, it would have been a giant kill.

[casimir]

15 hours ago, papalawrence said:

For me as a fan, it's actually easier to cope following a sweep like in 2012, than to be down to the final 2 outs of game 7 and lose in extras. 2013 still lingers for me. 2012 does not. Blue Jays fans will sting from this until they win it all, which may never happen. 

I'm the opposite.  If my team loses, I'd rather it be highly competitive.  I can walk away better from the Seattle series this season and the Cleveland series last season than I can after being swept by Baltimore or San Francisco.  Those series were embarrassing.

[casimir]

9 hours ago, chasfh said:

 

I'm not ready for autumn/winter.  I want more Tiger games, I want more bike riding, I want more lawn mowing, I want more windows down in the car, I want more short sleeves and shorts.

[casimir]

2 hours ago, lordstanley said:

I think villains and mini-dynasties are good for the game. Win or lose, the fact that guys like Ohtani and Yamamoto and Betts were playing last night made it seem grander. If the Jays had won, it would have been a giant kill.

I like Ohtani and Betts.  Ohtani is a generational talent doing something we’ve never seen before and likely won’t see again.  I don’t think Betts gets enough credit for his combination of versatility at such a high level.  I think that’s in part because of Ohtani being on his team.  And neither appear to be unlikable personalities.

Yamamoto’s performance in game 7 after game 6 is highly impressive to me.  And the story is that he was willing to pitch in game 3 if needed because of how long it was going after pitching the complete game in game 2.

The are other Dodgers that on an individual basis seem like they’d easily be fan favorites if they played for Detroit.  The collection of Dodgers is just annoying.

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, lordstanley said:

I think villains and mini-dynasties are good for the game. Win or lose, the fact that guys like Ohtani and Yamamoto and Betts were playing last night made it seem grander. If the Jays had won, it would have been a giant kill.

I agree

[romad1]

4 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

The outcome of a game never has much of an impact on your life.  People who go psycho over a group of professional athletes playing for millions of dollars really do need to re-assess their lives.

Good place to bring that assessment.  Why don't you go tell the kids about Santa next? 

[Screwball]

As one who shut this stuff off years ago, and then got hooked again; I thought the entire playoffs were a really good show. As much as I didn't like how it all ended, it was highly entertaining. Drama, long games, a little bit of everything sit on the end of your seat type stuff.

I'm glad I watched. Bravo to baseball for this one.

[lordstanley]

 

[Screwball]

The difference between a double play and a line drive hit to the outfield and drive in a run, is a small fraction of an in inch, or a millisecond, at the point of contact. Kinda like golf. We all know how that goes. One itty bitty little thing could have changed the entire outcome.

That's the beauty of baseball.

Edited Monday at 02:04 AM by Screwball

[Shinzaki]

Tony Clark scandal?

 

[Tenacious D]

Players will not be happy if any truth to this.  They won’t want the dues they pay to be squandered.