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42 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Thank you! I came across that when I went back to one of the Athletic podcasts just yesterday. Well, first it was 3-1/2 minutes of commercials. Then it was five minutes of talking about their own taste in music. Then at the 8:something mark they said, well, we should probably talk about baseball now. Eye roll.

I think part of it is they feel as if have to talk about music and beer to assure everybody that they are not saber geeks, but I don't care.  I want them to get to the geeky part! 

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Podcast chastisers. 

Currently on my phone:  

  • Tigers ones:
     
    • Tiger Territory:  I like those guys.  I agree that Austin can be a bit stuttery but his contribution about the player's experience and the random tea he spills on the Tigers teams of his era is interesting.
    • Motor City MetricsI do not mind these guys at all.  Rogellio is a University of Mich-Dearborn alum and about as human a person who podcasts can be about his issues with the spoken word.  Chris uses the phrase "I don't know" a bit too much for a person who is commenting on things but overall...enjoyable listen.  The amount of time they devote to the Minors is way beyond my abilities and patience but it serves the depth of their commentary.  They at least have gone and seen the kids play. 
    • Locked on Tigers:  Scott is good after a win when I'm all giddy in the morning and want to re-experience it...when its a loss i probably won't listen.
    • Have a Seat:   I only listen once in a while.  I enjoy it when I do.  Dan and Jason are good interviewers.  I usually don't want to hear the careful stuff current players say.
  • Political ones: Not saying names here to avoid starting crap.  On the daily I will listen until I get too mad to listen any more. 
  • WWII and History ones: 
    • We Have Ways of Making You Talk:  very heavy focus on British contribution with lots of snark about "ze Germans" from comedian turned WWII historian Al Murray and James Holland
    • The Rest is History:   Similar two person history pod as We Have Ways with James Holland's brother Tom and Dominick Sandbrook who cover general World History.  Sometimes they get into some silly topics but they do good stuff. 
    • WWII Pod:  which has a terrible lazy intro with music from the 20s not 40s and random audio clips of people saying WWII stuff, which for some reason does not actually indicate how good the podcast is which is pretty good. 
  • Michigan sports: 
    • MGOPODCAST:  If for not other reason than the intro music and the weird Ann Arbor specific commercials.  I like Seth, Brian and supporting cast a lot for multiple reasons.  They know football better than I do and explain nuances and Seth's historical awareness is great.
  • Strategy and geopolitics:
    • Naval Institute Proceedings PodcastPound for pound a great place to go for discussion of the things going on with our military and how we would and how we did fight battles in all domains (cyber, space, air, ground, surface and subsurface ocean).
    • Also sometimes there is an Air Force version I listen to...but cannot recall the name.
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Rogelio lives in my neighborhood and we have several real life mutual friends, at least according to FB. 
 

If you have any interest in space check out BBC’s thirteen minutes to the moon. Trust me. Its good. Even space geeks learned something.  First season covers the beginning of Apollo and Apollo 11. Second season covers Apollo 13.  

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10 minutes ago, oblong said:

Rogelio lives in my neighborhood and we have several real life mutual friends, at least according to FB. 
 

If you have any interest in space check out BBC’s thirteen minutes to the moon. Trust me. Its good. Even space geeks learned something.  First season covers the beginning of Apollo and Apollo 11. Second season covers Apollo 13.  

Will do. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I think part of it is they feel as if have to talk about music and beer to assure everybody that they are not saber geeks {snip}

Maybe. Or maybe it’s that they think their inner lives are so interesting they think we all wanna hear about it. Or maybe they’re basically amateurs and never gave any thought to structuring their podcast to maximize listener interest.

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42 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Maybe. Or maybe it’s that they think their inner lives are so interesting they think we all wanna hear about it. Or maybe they’re basically amateurs and never gave any thought to structuring their podcast to maximize listener interest.

Or it's just a combined Myers-Briggs/Dunning-Kruger  thing. If you are doing a podcast it's probably because you find yourself entertaining. I'm not necessarily being pejorative in saying that, you may be right that you are entertaining, but maybe not.

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I think it's far more likely a lot of today's baseball podcasters "grew up" listening to Kevin Goldstein and Jason Parks. That was the model they used and it was wildly successful, so that's probably at least some basis for what they think should be done.

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If I had a nickel for every podcast and show I told people I would check out I would be rich. How do people find the time?  Someone sent me a link to one of the popular ones and it was 2:30 long. Who can do this?   Another friend sent one about “conflict resolution” that was 90 minutes. I listen to chill out and be entertained. Not to learn stuff. I’m being funny of course. These are dear friends. I just can’t listen to this. Maybe I have a disorder.  My wife makes fun of me at night as I will watch about 3 minutes of a video on YouTube then move on because I was already bored. 

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3 hours ago, microline133 said:

I think it's far more likely a lot of today's baseball podcasters "grew up" listening to Kevin Goldstein and Jason Parks. That was the model they used and it was wildly successful, so that's probably at least some basis for what they think should be done.

To be honest, I think it has as much to do with having more time to fill than they have good material for. This is the general problem across virtually all media today - dilution. In recent years the media universe is expanding more rapidly than the material universe and the material universe is having a difficult time trying to fill it.

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5 hours ago, chasfh said:

Maybe. Or maybe it’s that they think their inner lives are so interesting they think we all wanna hear about it. Or maybe they’re basically amateurs and never gave any thought to structuring their podcast to maximize listener interest.

This. For me, the ads are a distraction. I don’t enjoy that, but I get it. But the time that too many podcasts take warming up and being personal really annoys me. It’s almost as if they’re 1950s Science Fiction short story writers and they’re getting paid by the word. Just get to the point. 

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In that industry you have to stay on it or else you fade so the pressure to keep on churning out content is massive for these folks with side hustles.  In fact it’s like that with most side hustles. God help you if you have family members in real estate. It’s all they talk about. 

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9 hours ago, chasfh said:

Thank you! I came across that when I went back to one of the Athletic podcasts just yesterday. Well, first it was 3-1/2 minutes of commercials. Then it was five minutes of talking about their own taste in music. Then at the 8:something mark they said, well, we should probably talk about baseball now. Eye roll.

I don't mind that one. Sam Miller being back in the game is great.

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4 hours ago, oblong said:

If I had a nickel for every podcast and show I told people I would check out I would be rich. How do people find the time?  Someone sent me a link to one of the popular ones and it was 2:30 long. Who can do this?   Another friend sent one about “conflict resolution” that was 90 minutes. I listen to chill out and be entertained. Not to learn stuff. I’m being funny of course. These are dear friends. I just can’t listen to this. Maybe I have a disorder.  My wife makes fun of me at night as I will watch about 3 minutes of a video on YouTube then move on because I was already bored. 

I have a 4.5 hour commute back and forth every week from Chicago to Detroit, so podcasts are a welcome distraction.

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2 hours ago, papalawrence said:

Random team stat - in their final 44 games of 2024 the Tigers went 31-13. Following the Dodgers sweep to start the season, the Tigers are 31-13.

And we have 3 major contributors from last season that have been out all season. As well as our starting catcher who has been gone for 3 weeks or so. And a free agent pitcher who also has been out all season. Pretty amazing...they can be even better.

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Random thoughts.  

With everyone getting healthy, keeping Javy in the line-up will be a challenge but he needs to be there.  Can he pitch?  

Parker can be so dynamic on both sides but I still am not confident in his bat.  

Have we become too right handed.

Almost two months in and no starter is out for the season and reinforcements are on their way.  I miss pitching chaos though.  Wish we did that opener stuff or piggy backed some starters.  Hinch is the master of matchups.  

Not sure though if we will ever see our $15 million starter, forget his name.  Did he actually injure himself or did his hip just start going bad.   

Seems like losses are harder to take this year.  It's like the world is ending. 

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Just now, Arlington said:

Random thoughts.  

With everyone getting healthy, keeping Javy in the line-up will be a challenge but he needs to be there.  Can he pitch?  

Parker can be so dynamic on both sides but I still am not confident in his bat.  

Have we become too right handed.

Almost two months in and no starter is out for the season and reinforcements are on their way.  I miss pitching chaos though.  Wish we did that opener stuff or piggy backed some starters.  Hinch is the master of matchups.  

Not sure though if we will ever see our $15 million starter, forget his name.  Did he actually injure himself or did his hip just start going bad.   

Seems like losses are harder to take this year.  It's like the world is ending. 

Concur on the last line. 

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12 minutes ago, Arlington said:

Random thoughts.  

With everyone getting healthy, keeping Javy in the line-up will be a challenge but he needs to be there.  Can he pitch?  

Parker can be so dynamic on both sides but I still am not confident in his bat.  

Have we become too right handed.

Almost two months in and no starter is out for the season and reinforcements are on their way.  I miss pitching chaos though.  Wish we did that opener stuff or piggy backed some starters.  Hinch is the master of matchups.  

Not sure though if we will ever see our $15 million starter, forget his name.  Did he actually injure himself or did his hip just start going bad.   

Seems like losses are harder to take this year.  It's like the world is ending. 

All Meadows has to do on offense is what we've gotten from our 3rd base production. And between his base running speed and his defense, he's a major upgrade. We all see Javy playing a really good CF. Parker is better...

Posted
1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

Pretty cool tidbit even if minor league team record isn't always the best indicator of system strength. 

Teaching guys how to win at the minor league level is important training for the major league level. 

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