tiger2022 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 6 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: And regarding Sweeney. I agree. They just don't seem to have another option. McKinstry could play SS, but he's not that good. Plus there is always that fear in the back of our minds that McKinstry and Baez will turn back into McKinstry and Baez. Why would they be afraid of those guys reverting back to McKinstry and Baez? So basically they would revert back into a Trey Sweeney type of player? Quote
Klondike Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On 7/20/2025 at 12:46 PM, casimir said: Special ops, reporting to Duece? The Tiger's gave him 15 million to practice pitch a whole season. What a gig if your Cobb. Quote
Klondike Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On 7/20/2025 at 1:32 PM, tiger2022 said: Why would they be afraid of those guys reverting back to McKinstry and Baez? So basically they would revert back into a Trey Sweeney type of player? I would take the old Baez defense at shortstop and the solid journeyman McKinstry. They are not real all-stars but a Championship team needs those types. Problem is the Tiger's don't have enough stars otherwise. If they win it will be by pitching and stopping the other team scoring. I wish they would get a really good defensive 3rd baseman and load up on more pitching. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted July 21 Posted July 21 A bit of former Tigers talk. Verlander now has 16 starts this season and is 0-8. Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On the plus side...Alex Lange pitched a scoreless inning for the Hens on Saturday. No hits with a walj and a K. On the downside Matt Manning gave up 2 runs in an inning and a third. He has an ERA over 6 at AAA Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: On the plus side...Alex Lange pitched a scoreless inning for the Hens on Saturday. No hits with a walj and a K. On the downside Matt Manning gave up 2 runs in an inning and a third. He has an ERA over 6 at AAA Yup. There is hope for Lange. He seems to have his pitching under control, if he can stay healthy. Manning is just....who knows? When he first went to relief he seemed to have a few good outings - good FB velo, but then he just falls back again. 1 Quote
Arlington Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 hours ago, Klondike said: The Tiger's gave him 15 million to practice pitch a whole season. What a gig if your Cobb. And if "it hurts" he gets to stop. I don't want to be too snarky here but I couldn't resist. Quote
chasfh Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Believe me when I tell you that Alex Cobb is not happy with his circumstances at the moment. 1 Quote
papalawrence Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Tigers promoting Melton Tigers To Promote Troy Melton - MLB Trade Rumors https://share.google/PYj4hKOpLjpsDZEd9 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 21 Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: Believe me when I tell you that Alex Cobb is not happy with his circumstances at the moment. I would think not. There is nothing more frustrating for a competitive athlete than not being able to compete due to injury. It's nice that he doesn't have to worry about money, but I would assume the desire burns just as strong. Quote
chasfh Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: I would think not. There is nothing more frustrating for a competitive athlete than not being able to compete due to injury. It's nice that he doesn't have to worry about money, but I would assume the desire burns just as strong. It’s all this, plus another aspect is that he is still working his ass off to get better so he can pitch. I can imagine the idea that players coming back from injury work have to harder at their job than healthy players on active rosters typically do. 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 21 Posted July 21 9 minutes ago, papalawrence said: Tigers promoting Melton Tigers To Promote Troy Melton - MLB Trade Rumors https://share.google/PYj4hKOpLjpsDZEd9 That's bad news for SGL. Both of them pitched Friday. SGL had a rough outing and Melton pitched well. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Let's hope Melton looks good and gives Harris some leverage looking for relievers. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 hours ago, Shinzaki said: ... On the downside Matt Manning gave up 2 runs in an inning and a third. He has an ERA over 6 at AAA 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: ... Manning is just....who knows? When he first went to relief he seemed to have a few good outings - good FB velo, but then he just falls back again. I've been charting Manning's relief appearances... He pitched only 1 inning between June 28th and July 20th... three weeks. I'm assuming he was injured for the most part during this period. On June 28th he got rocked for 6 runs in 1 2/3 innings. I assume he was pitching injured... or else he had to "go back to school" to fix whatever was "broken"? But outside of that one appearance: From June 1st through July 20th, including July 20th but not June 28th: he had 12 appearances for 15 1/3 inn's, giving up 9 hits, 5 ER's, 2 HR's. 2.93 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 9.4 K's/9 and 4.1 BB's/9 for a 2.4 K-BB ratio... Small sample size. The walks are still a problem. No expectations from me whatsoever. But maybe he has a chance? Maybe the Org thinks he does? I wish they would have stuck him in the bullpen earlier... Like... last year. Quote
Edman85 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Manning was out for a week for the birth of his child, then the All Star Break. 1 Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 22 Posted July 22 3 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Let's hope Melton looks good and gives Harris some leverage looking for relievers. Or hear me out we leverage him and his 98-99 MPH fastball in the bullpen and let his almost 14 K/9 eat out there in shorter bursts. 1 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Or hear me out we leverage him and his 98-99 MPH fastball in the bullpen and let his almost 14 K/9 eat out there in shorter bursts. Indeed allowing us to add another arm only if the price is right. Not trade him. I didn’t mean that. No no. I dye any to trade any of our top 12. Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I am a big fan of defense and I was thinking K'Bryan Hayes could be the new Brandon Inge, but he is even worse than Inge offensively. I don't think they can afford having a bat lke that in the line-up on a regular basis. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 22 Posted July 22 6 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Or hear me out we leverage him and his 98-99 MPH fastball in the bullpen and let his almost 14 K/9 eat out there in shorter bursts. I like this idea!!! Quote
slothfacekilla Posted July 22 Posted July 22 22 hours ago, GalagaGuy said: A bit of former Tigers talk. Verlander now has 16 starts this season and is 0-8. 1 Quote
IdahoBert Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 23 hours ago, GalagaGuy said: A bit of former Tigers talk. Verlander now has 16 starts this season and is 0-8. Glad we dodged the bullet on JV even though I still love him. Hope his name ends up on the wall, even if he enters the Hall of Fame without a D or any other insignia on his cap. Quote
Tiger337 Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: Glad we dodged the bullet on JV even though I still love him. Hope his name ends up on the wall, even if he enters the Hall of Fame without a D or any other insignia on his cap. If he goes in representing any team, it will most likely be the Tigers. He spent 13 years in Detroit. Ultimately though, the Hall of Fame is an individual award. He'll go in as Justin Verlander. Edited July 22 by Tiger337 1 Quote
chasfh Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: If he goes in representing any team, it will most likely be the Tigers. He spent 13 years in Detroit. Ultimately though, the Hall of Fame is an individual award. He'll go in as Justin Verlander. Technically true as this is, the cap players go into the Hall with means something to most ardent fans, probably because we tend to be fans more of teams than individual players. I would like to see Verlander go in as a Tiger. I'm a slappy that way. To the degree it's important at all in the big scheme of things, which is not really, it's important to me. Until just recently there would be a good chance he would go in as an Astro, especially after he won his second ring and his second Cy Young with them. They supercharged his late career and made him the winner practically all players long to be. When he went back to the Astros last year I thought he might retire with them and cement his legacy with their franchise. But he was terrible for them last year, so the Astros let him go, and now he's flailing with the Giants at the moment, so I think there's significantly less chance now that he goes in as an Astro. Part of it depends on how he finishes up. If he retires as a Giant, I think it's much better than 50/50 he goes in as a Tiger than as an Astro. BUT: if he were sign a one-day contract with one or the other team and he retires with that team, I think that's the cap he's going to wear to Cooperstown. And he has a reason to sign that ceremonial contract with either team. Edited July 22 by chasfh Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Very sad news. Didn’t realize that Moya was still playing. One time I won’t make fun of McCosky for an old friend update. Quote
sagnam Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Very sad news. Didn’t realize that Moya was still playing. One time I won’t make fun of McCosky for an old friend update. Sad Former Tigers outfielder mourns sudden death of wife in Taiwan Edited July 22 by sagnam Quote
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