2025 Detroit Tigers General Discussion Thread

[monkeytargets39]

28 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Anybody else see Boston as our biggest obstacle to the World Series???

I see our pitching staff as the biggest obstacle currently

[alex]

11 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I would not be opposed to bringing Walker Buehler in for a look and see if Fetter can do anything with him.  Red Sox just released him.

Hmm, I am sure they are at least giving it 'a thought', along with a couple others in a similar situation. Maybe more so as a RP.

[tiger2022]

With 26 games left and a 9.5 lead, it's looking like the Tigers will make the playoffs. They have a chance to set up their rotation.

Obviously, Skubal but after that, it is looking rough.

Morton, Flaherty, Mize, and Paddack have all been horrible in the last month.

There is no way I would feel comfortable starting Paddack.  His entire career, other than his rookie year, has been that guy with an era around 5.

I feel Mize is going to get lit up with his below average stuff.  

Flaherty is a question mark, but when he is off, it's really bad.

I think i might consider Morton as the 2nd starter.

 

 

[CaliforniaDreaming]

Or...start Flaherty/Mize/Morton/Paddack (take your pick) but have an EXTREMELY quick hook. Have Melton (and others) ready to go already in the first inning if need be. If you see that you've got the "Bad Jack" (or any of the others), don't be afraid to start the chaos right away. But if you happen to get the good version of any of them, you can let them keep going.

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Morton [has] been horrible in the last month.

Three quality starts out of five, 36 strikeouts and ten walks in 27.1 innings, and a 91 FIP- is “horrible”?

Man, tough crowd.

[chasfh]

Honestly, the four guys we would all choose today might not even be the four guys we start in October. For all we know as of this moment, Urquidy will be starting for us in October. 🤷‍♀️

[Motor City Sonics]

Flaherty just seems to have the one bad inning.     He'll be zooming along, have a terrible inning and then he's fine, but it seems to do so much damage.      

[tiger2022]

11 hours ago, chasfh said:

Three quality starts out of five, 36 strikeouts and ten walks in 27.1 innings, and a 91 FIP- is “horrible”?

Man, tough crowd.

27.1 IP, 4.64 ERA, 1.218 WHIP in his last 5 starts.  That isn't going to cut it against the Yankees in the playoffs, but I'd still roll the dice with him over Paddack or Mize.

Edited Sunday at 01:35 PM by tiger2022

[tiger2022]

In the last 5 starts (including last night):

Skubal 3.06 era, 1.022 whip

Paddack 6.38 era, 1.375 whip

Morton 4.64 era, 1.218 whip

Mize 5.86 era, 1.265 whip

Flaherty 6.43 era, 1.429 whip

 

I trust Morton as the #2 guy the most.  He's a bulldog. 

Paddack shouldn't even be in a mlb rotation.  Mize has inferior stuff.  Flaherty is hit or miss.  

I think it has to be Skubal, Morton, Flaherty and bullpen day in the playoffs.

Edited Sunday at 01:49 PM by tiger2022

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

27.1 IP, 4.64 ERA, 1.218 WHIP in his last 5 starts.  That isn't going to cut it against the Yankees in the playoffs, but I'd still roll the dice with him over Paddack or Mize.

League average WHIP is 1.290. Again, Charlie's WHIP is better than average.

Tough crowd.

[gehringer_2]

RE: Johnny Kane

Story in today's Freep by Siedel - mostly about Benetti but in the course of it he says that the reason that Kane is basically out with the Tigers except for the occasional drop in is that the Tigers wanted someone for that slot to do both Tigers and Wings, but Kane is committed to the Pistons during the Hockey season and wouldn't give it up (because he is probably angling for Blaha's gig - so why would he?). So maybe not some kind of performance issue as much as just a career choice conflict.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/jeff-seidel/2025/08/31/detroit-tigers-turn-broadcast-chaos-into-mlb-gold-with-jason-benetti/85872012007/

Edited Sunday at 04:05 PM by gehringer_2

[casimir]

I think I’m more comfortable with a Morton start than a Flaherty start right now.

[tiger2022]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

League average WHIP is 1.290. Again, Charlie's WHIP is better than average.

Tough crowd.

Did you not finish reading my post?  I said I trust Morton the most as the #2.

I seek forgiveness.  He has been mediocre.  

Edited Sunday at 04:53 PM by tiger2022

[Shinzaki]

Can't say as I blame Kane for that..Pistons are a fun team

[1984Echoes]

6 hours ago, casimir said:

I think I’m more comfortable with a Morton start than a Flaherty start right now.

I think I’m more comfortable with a Melton start.

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Did you not finish reading my post?  I said I trust Morton the most as the #2.

I seek forgiveness.  He has been mediocre.  

I can't grant forgiveness because I'm not looking for contrition. None of this is personal, at least not for me, it isn't.

So I think we can agree that Morton has not been horrible, as you said. I can get with "mediocre", provided you don't mean he's been below average, because he has not. He's been slightly above average overall in the things he can control. He's doing what we want him to.

The bigger problem in your apparent worldview might be that you think he's been not good, yet you would peg him as our #2 starter for the playoffs, which suggests to me you might believe we're going to get smoked off the field for lack of starting pitching. We might anyway, but I don't see our starting pitching prospects for October as being as dire as all that.

Edited Sunday at 10:55 PM by chasfh

[Tigermojo]

Secret weapon could be Olson in the playoffs.

[1984Echoes]

9 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Secret weapon could be Olson in the playoffs.

When is he supposed to get back?

On that note... how about SGL getting up to speed as a potential starter come October...?

[Tigermojo]

13 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

When is he supposed to get back?

On that note... how about SGL getting up to speed as a potential starter come October...?

Pretty much just hopes and dreams right now.

"RHP Reese Olson

Injury: Right shoulder strain

IL date: July 28 (60-day IL)

Expected return: Possibly postseason

Status: Completing rehab daily after receiving a platelet rich plasma (PRP) injection in his shoulder Aug. 5. Will not need surgery and hopes to be ready to pitch in the postseason. (Updated Aug. 12)"

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/tigers-injuries-and-roster-moves

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

 

On that note... how about SGL getting up to speed as a potential starter come October...?

his last two outings at Toledo were 1 IP as an opener and 3 IP in middle relief. Make of that what you will.

[Tiger337]

22 hours ago, chasfh said:

Honestly, the four guys we would all choose today might not even be the four guys we start in October. For all we know as of this moment, Urquidy will be starting for us in October. 🤷‍♀️

Or they might go back to pitching chaos for the playoffs.  At this point, that might be the most likely scenario.  

[gehringer_2]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

Or they might go back to pitching chaos for the playoffs.  At this point, that might be the most likely scenario.  

they may need to go back to pitching chaos before the playoffs!

[Shinzaki]

JHen and SGL are coming up.  How soon before we see Watson?

[SoCalTiger]

As we sit here on September 1 ,solidly in the drivers seat for a Division Title,  no matter what happens in October we will have had 6 months of winning baseball so this has been a successful and wonderful Season. 

Now win the Bloody Title !!!!

[tiger2022]

19 hours ago, chasfh said:

I can't grant forgiveness because I'm not looking for contrition. None of this is personal, at least not for me, it isn't.

So I think we can agree that Morton has not been horrible, as you said. I can get with "mediocre", provided you don't mean he's been below average, because he has not. He's been slightly above average overall in the things he can control. He's doing what we want him to.

The bigger problem in your apparent worldview might be that you think he's been not good, yet you would peg him as our #2 starter for the playoffs, which suggests to me you might believe we're going to get smoked off the field for lack of starting pitching. We might anyway, but I don't see our starting pitching prospects for October as being as dire as all that.

Can we say Morton was horrible today?