2025 DETROIT TIGERS REGULAR SEASON THREAD

[TigerNation]

 

Edited April 4, 2025 by TigerNation

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, TigerNation said:

 

Not fired, not retired, no announcement of an upward move to a new team?

Edited April 4, 2025 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Not fired, not retired, no announcement of an upward move to a new team?

Getting out before the pitch stealng scandal hits.😄

Edited April 4, 2025 by Tiger337

[oblong]

On the surface it seems weird.  But depending on what he could have been responsible for then the start of the season could make sense. He’s been with them for a long time. Maybe he was fulfilled and wants to move on. 

[Tenacious D]

From MLB Rumors…

 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, oblong said:

On the surface it seems weird.  But depending on what he could have been responsible for then the start of the season could make sense. He’s been with them for a long time. Maybe he was fulfilled and wants to move on. 

Or maybe he wasn’t very good at the way Scott Harris wants to do analytics, which wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true. The timing is kind of interesting, though. Reddit is all in on the scandal angle.

[monkeytargets39]

44 minutes ago, chasfh said:

 Reddit is all in on the scandal angle.

As is tradition

[Edman85]

My theories...

• Crowded front office, personalities clashing. Between Greenberg and the new VP of Analytics hire shifting Sartori into more of Menzin's duties, he may have felt marginalized.
• He was named in the racial discrimination suit by the fired clubhouse employee a couple years ago. Maybe something came from that.
• Could just be burned out... A lot of hours.

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Or maybe he wasn’t very good at the way Scott Harris wants to do analytics, which wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true. The timing is kind of interesting, though. Reddit is all in on the scandal angle.

Menzin hasn't really been the analytics guy for a while. He was more that by default in the Dombrowski days, but once Avila started building up the analytics staff, Menzin's duties were more of a traditional assistant GM/jack-of-all-trades type...

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Edited April 4, 2025 by Edman85

[Edman85]

As for timing, if your point person for contract negotiations resigns right after extension season and not getting anybody locked up long term, that may be a scab to pick at.

[romad1]

5 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

As for timing, if your point person for contract negotiations resigns right after extension season and not getting anybody locked up long term, that may be a scab to pick at.

Scapegoat for not getting Alex Bregman in the fold? 

[Edman85]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

Scapegoat for not getting Alex Bregman in the fold? 

Possibly? I hadn't thought of that? I was more thinking the pre-arb extensions that tend to locked up around Opening Day. Greene would be such a candidate...

[romad1]

1 minute ago, Edman85 said:

Possibly? I hadn't thought of that? I was more thinking the pre-arb extensions that tend to locked up around Opening Day. Greene would be such a candidate...

or Skubal?

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Or maybe he wasn’t very good at the way Scott Harris wants to do analytics, which wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true. The timing is kind of interesting, though. Reddit is all in on the scandal angle.

That is my guess.  I remember reading about him from the Dombrowski days. He was reasonably well versed in baseball analytics, but I didn't get the sense that he had the sophistication of the modern analysts.  

[davidsb623]

15 hours ago, TigerNation said:

 

This is a DOGE cut.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Menzin hasn't really been the analytics guy for a while. He was more that by default in the Dombrowski days, but once Avila started building up the analytics staff, Menzin's duties were more of a traditional assistant GM/jack-of-all-trades type...

Last year's media guide:

2021 Media guide:

2017 Media Guide:

 

That’s fair, although analytics could be at the root of some disagreements he might have had with other in the front office in terms of whom to sign or lock up, how much to offer, etc. This, in addition to other possible explanations such as burnout and racism.

[IdahoBert]

Cleveland is breathing down our neck like a high school boy with beer on his breath and a pocket full of condoms. I don’t like it. They have even allowed more runs than they’ve scored and still have a 13–9 record. 

[Tigermojo]

McKinstry is 16 for 31 at CoPa.

[papalawrence]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

Cleveland is breathing down our neck like a high school boy with beer on his breath and a pocket full of condoms. I don’t like it. They have even allowed more runs than they’ve scored and still have a 13–9 record. 

That's Cleveland. They've been doing what Harris has built in Detroit for many years. Their development just keeps coming 

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, papalawrence said:

That's Cleveland. They've been doing what Harris has built in Detroit for many years. Their development just keeps coming 

I wouldn’t mind a rekindling of the Tigers-Blue Jays rivalry of the mid-80s. Especially if it’s Cleveland, the nearest major league city to us, and one we have so little rivalry history with that last year was one of few times ever we went head-to-head with them for pennant stakes.

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I wouldn’t mind a rekindling of the Tigers-Blue Jays rivalry of the mid-80s. Especially if it’s Cleveland, the nearest major league city to us, and one we have so little rivalry history with that last year was one of few times ever we went head-to-head with them for pennant stakes.

Plus their college team's colors are primer and rust. 

[Motor City Sonics]

What's the deal with Matt Vierling? 

[romad1]

26 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

What's the deal with Matt Vierling? 

Not sure when the rehab assignment starts.   It should be soon. 

[IdahoBert]

In the “good news“ department the Tigers will not be facing Baltimore’s best pitcher, Tomoyuki Sugano, because he pitched on the 23rd.