4/8/25 1:10PM Yankees @ Tigers

[Tigeraholic1]

Comerica Park - Detroit, MI

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Game Time Forecast: Partly Cloudy 36

Starters:

RHP Carlos Carrasco

LHP Tarik Skubal

[chasfh]

Raise your hand if you could foresee that the strength of the 6-4 Tigers team, the rotation, would see three of the five starters with ERAs of 5 or higher, and that Skubal’s would be the worst of them.

[Tenacious D]

Kreidler on the way out?  Hicklen bats RH and can play CF

[Tenacious D]

4 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Kreidler on the way out?  Hicklen bats RH and can play CF

Actually, Margot going on DL

[gehringer_2]

20 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Actually, Margot going on DL

geesh. He could at least have waiting until Vierling was ready to hurt himself.

[monkeytargets39]

He hurt himself giving no effort on that fly ball yesterday?

[Hongbit]

25 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Actually, Margot going on DL

He sprained his fat. 

[Tigeraholic1]

31 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Actually, Margot going on DL

We are not allowed to call it that anymore.....

[papalawrence]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Raise your hand if you could foresee that the strength of the 6-4 Tigers team, the rotation, would see three of the five starters with ERAs of 5 or higher, and that Skubal’s would be the worst of them.

I'm raising my hand right now - not because of the pitching, rather I have to stretch my wrist.

[RatkoVarda]

27 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

He sprained his fat. 

Margot is not aging gracefully; used to be a good defender and baserunner, but looks a lot older than 30

[Tiger337]

28 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

We are not allowed to call it that anymore.....

Not allowed?  You can call it that if you want (I still do somethimes because it's so ingrained in my brain) but the official name is now Injured List which is similar to other sports.   

[Tiger337]

6 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Margot is not aging gracefully; used to be a good defender and baserunner, but looks a lot older than 30

Yes, he is not what I expected.  

[kdog]

Vierling inching closer to return...Lange with a setback.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Not allowed?  You can call it that if you want (I still do somethimes because it's so ingrained in my brain) but the official name is now Injured List which is similar to other sports.   

I just think its funny what people consider offensive. Is the bullpen still suppose to be reffered to as the "Arm Barn"? That one makes me chuckle.

[Tiger337]

19 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I just think its funny what people consider offensive. Is the bullpen still suppose to be reffered to as the "Arm Barn"? That one makes me chuckle.

There are surely things that you think are offense that are not offensive to others.  Anyway, if there is one group which deserves extra consideration, it is disabled people.  

Edited April 8, 2025 by Tiger337

[gehringer_2]

23 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

There are surely things that you think are offense that are not offensive to others.  Anyway, if there is one group which deserves extra consideration, it is disabled people.  

what amuses me about the whole "use this word not that word" merry go round is that the connotation attaches to the word by its use, not vice versa. You could decide to call disabled people 'bananas' and in a generation it would have the same connotation as 'disabled' and there would be complaints about calling hurt ball players 'bananas' because it was an insult to 'real' bananas people. To me it's an exercise in reality denial. Like the IEEE argument about master/slave control loops. Slavery is a word for a concept that reflects situations that exist in reality, you can't avoid the intellectual construct - it's there no matter what word you use. People have been cruel and inhuman to each other since forever, its real history - it doesn't go away if you call it something else.

So that's my rant - but it's not a hill I'm going to die on, just bitch about.  

Edited April 8, 2025 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

19 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

what amuses me about the whole "use this word not that word" merry go round is that the connotation attaches to the word by its use, not vice versa. You could decide to call disabled people 'bananas' and in a generation it would have the same connotation as 'disabled' and there would be complaints about calling hurt ball players 'bananas' because it was an insult to 'real' bananas people. To me it's an exercise in reality denial. Like the IEEE argument about master/slave control loops. Slavery is a word for a concept that reflects situations that exist in reality, you can't avoid the intellectual construct - it's there no matter what word you use. People have been cruel and inhuman to each other since forever, its real history - it doesn't go away if you call it something else.

So that's my rant - but it's not a hill I'm going to die on, just bitch about.  

I don't think the word "disabled" is generally considered offensive.  It depends on how it is used.  If you refer to individuals as disabled people or people with disabilities, then it's not offensive.  If you refer to them as "the disabled" then it's dehumanizing.  I do understand your overall point though.  it is intent that matters.  The idea is to respect everyone with respect and kindness.  

I would say that "injured list" makes more sense than "disabled list" because a disability is usually permanent whereas an injury generally heals.  

Edited April 8, 2025 by Tiger337

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

Kreidler on the way out?  Hicklen bats RH and can play CF

Outfield chaos.

[Motor City Sonics]

And now Jake Rogers has oblique "tightness".    Playing in 38 degree weather won't help that, so he is a scratch today.  I see an IL stint for him coming.   Who's the next catcher,  Nido?     Then who gets lopped off the roster? 

[kdog]

Jake Rogers scratched with Left Oblique tightness.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

Margot is not aging gracefully; used to be a good defender and baserunner, but looks a lot older than 30

So do a lot of Dominican players.

Apropos of nothing, I have been wondering whether Margot is a Haitian-Dominican, since he has a French name and that's not uncommon there.

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't think the word "disabled" is generally considered offensive.  It depends on how it is used.  If you refer to individuals as disabled people or people with disabilities, then it's not offensive.  If you refer to them as "the disabled" then it's dehumanizing.  I do understand your overall point though.  it is intent that matters.  The idea is to respect everyone with respect and kindness.  

I would say that "injured list" makes more sense than "disabled list" because a disability is usually permanent whereas an injury generally heals.  

I don't disagree with anything in this post. But I would comment that again, the only reason 'disabled' now has this more narrowed concept attached to it is recent usage. In the general sense of English semantics, if you are unable to do something, you are disabled wrt it, so an injured player is disabled. At 50,000 ft with no other social context, that is perfectly good usage. Again, it doesn't bother me to use IL instead of DL at all. I'm just amused by the way the wheel turns.

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, kdog said:

Jake Rogers scratched with Left Oblique tightness.

Catching chaos, here we come? 😱

[kdog]

And now Rogers is on the IL lol...Nido called up.

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, kdog said:

And now Rogers is on the IL lol...Nido called up.

that's too bad. Nido looked pretty consistently terrible in ST.

Well,  Dillon's just got his Wally Pip/Lou Gehrig moment.

Edited April 8, 2025 by gehringer_2