6/17/25 6:40PM Pirates @ Tigers

[romad1]

3 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Not out of the woods. The ulnar nerve is what provides feeling to those two fingers, so there's likely something brewing in the elbow. I mean, there likely is for every pitcher, but this may be a sign.

Well, nobody gets out of here alive.  We are all day-to-day, etc.  

[IdahoBert]

Twins and the Royals are winning right now Guardians haven’t started yet. 

[Sports_Freak]

4 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Nostradamus!

What do the Tigers have, 2 streaks of 3 losses all season? The opening Dodger disaster and then the Cleveland series? And after Skubal pitched his masterpiece, Cleveland fell off a cliff.

[Sports_Freak]

6 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Looking at the old school stats...Mize looks pretty good.  He's not as clearly, amazingly dominant as Skubal or as Olson is when he's on but i'm happy we have him. 

The Pirates have problems scoring runs. But we scored 7 runs off of their decent pitching staff.

[Shinzaki]

[Sports_Freak]

57 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

BABIP gods are being rude to Parker.

 

56 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Meadows is getting absolutely BABIPd

But it's great to see him making solid contact. They'll fall in, eventually.

[Sports_Freak]

Hinch showing a lot of trust in Chase Lee. Using him in the 7th inning of a 1 run game. That 2.01 ERA is pretty impressive. He's definitely gonna stick around all summer.

[chasfh]

Javy Baez is going to be voted Comeback Player of the Year, and it’s going to be unanimous.

[IdahoBert]

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Javy Baez is going to be voted Comeback Player of the Year, and it’s going to be unanimous.

It’s just a joy to care about him and to celebrate him instead of being resentful that he’s taking up space and getting paid for it. 

[RatkoVarda]

10 game lead in mid June. unbelievable.

[IdahoBert]

I sure hope they can get tomorrow night’s game in. Right now there’s a 2-hour window where it’s not supposed to be raining but that sure looks iffy.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

BABIP gods are being rude to Parker.

 

2 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Meadows is getting absolutely BABIPd

good to see him squaring a few up

[Sports_Freak]

21 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

It’s just a joy to care about him and to celebrate him instead of being resentful that he’s taking up space and getting paid for it. 

And his attitude is very refreshing. CF? 2nd base? 3rd base? Shortstop? He'll play them all at a very high level. A perfect Hinch player.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, davidsb623 said:

And to think Tiger Stadium was 440 to center field!!

well, thereby hangs a tale. When the Briggs rebuild was done, the CF corner was more square, the flagpole was in play, and it was 440 right into to the corner where the flag pole was. But after some years they put a fence across the CF corner so there was 25-30 feet or so of fence square to home plate and the flag pole was behind it - no longer in play. the ground crew used it as a storage area. The distance to that fence was ~425, but they never took the old 440 marker off the wall and eventually just kept repainting their little fib. After the ball park closed, Google earth got a shot of the field after they had torn down the interior fence, you still see the warning track end at the line of the removed fence. Measured with GE, it was indeed 440 to the original wall, but 425 to where the fence was.

And there is your Tiger Trivia for the day....

 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:56 AM by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Looking at the old school stats...Mize looks pretty good.  He's not as clearly, amazingly dominant as Skubal or as Olson is when he's on but i'm happy we have him. 

Casey is fine. He doesn't quite have Ace level command, maybe he never will, but he keeps us in the game most nights.

[oblong]

23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

well, thereby hangs a tale. When the Briggs rebuild was done, the CF corner was more square, the flagpole was in play, and it was 440 right into to the corner where the flag pole was. But after some years they put a fence across the CF corner so there was 25-30 feet or so of fence square to home plate and the flag pole was behind it - no longer in play. the ground crew used it as a storage area. The distance to that fence was ~425, but they never took the old 440 marker off the wall and eventually just kept repainting their little fib. After the ball park closed, Google earth got a shot of the field after they had torn down the interior fence, you still see the warning track end at the line of the removed fence. Measured with GE, it was indeed 440 to the original wall, but 425 to where the fence was.

And there is your Tiger Trivia for the day....

 

 

Joe Falls also said a groundskeeper paced it off at 420. 
 

You would think that would break some kind of MLB role, no? 

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, oblong said:

Joe Falls also said a groundskeeper paced it off at 420. 
 

You would think that would break some kind of MLB role, no? 

well, it was true when the marker was first painted. 🤷‍♂️.

The fence went in in the early 60's I think. Probably by that time "440 to straight-away center field" had  become enough of a mantra the team just decided no-one would notice the difference. What I wonder is why they put up the fence. I suppose the straight wall was a cleaner look for TV, it made for a better batter's eye, and maybe there were complaints about the injury risk of the flagpole. Seems unlikely we will ever know.

[Motor City Sonics]

10 game lead, you magnificent bastards

[IdahoBert]

39 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

well, thereby hangs a tale. When the Briggs rebuild was done, the CF corner was more square, the flagpole was in play, and it was 440 right into to the corner where the flag pole was. But after some years they put a fence across the CF corner so there was 25-30 feet or so of fence square to home plate and the flag pole was behind it - no longer in play. the ground crew used it as a storage area. The distance to that fence was ~425, but they never took the old 440 marker off the wall and eventually just kept repainting their little fib. After the ball park closed, Google earth got a shot of the field after they had torn down the interior fence, you still see the warning track end at the line of the removed fence. Measured with GE, it was indeed 440 to the original wall, but 425 to where the fence was.

And there is your Tiger Trivia for the day....

 

 

So the first game I saw was a kid at Tiger Stadium Don Demeter hit a 425 foot out instead of a 440 foot out. 

[gehringer_2]

Just now, IdahoBert said:

So the first game I saw was a kid at Tiger Stadium Don Demeter hit a 425 foot out instead of a 440 foot out. 

well that's a good question, I can't date when the CF wall was put in. I know it was after Kaline started playing because I've heard him say the flagpole was still in play when he started playing and I even remember seeing games before it was there. Demeter played in Detroit 64-66. If you still  saw the flagpole on the field, it was still 440.

the only clue I found that may date the fence is the Detroit Historical story about the ball park says they put a score board in CF in 1961 but moved it to LF when hitters complained. If they had originally put the same aux scoreboard in CF that we used to see in LF, it's logical they would have had to have put a straight wall behind it - so 1961 is one possible dating. 

[IdahoBert]

13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

well that's a good question, I can't date when the CF wall was put in. I know it was after Kaline started playing because I've heard him say the flagpole was still in play when he started playing and I even remember seeing games before it was there. Demeter played in Detroit 64-66. If you still  saw the flagpole on the field, it was still 440.

the only clue I found that may date the fence is the Detroit Historical story about the ball park says they put a score board in CF in 1961 but moved it to LF when hitters complained. If they had originally put the same aux scoreboard in CF that we used to see in LF, it's logical they would have had to have put a straight wall behind it - so 1961 is one possible dating. 

I don’t remember anything about the flagpole. I just remember seeing an outfielder stand at the 440 mark and catch a Demeter drive to center. I can’t even remember who the Tigers played, I was just happy to be there.

[SoCalTiger]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

Casey is fine. He doesn't quite have Ace level command, maybe he never will, but he keeps us in the game most nights.

Milt Wilcox ? Walt Terrel ?

[romad1]

7 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

Milt Wilcox ? Walt Terrel ?

The splitter when it was on... 

[oblong]

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

well, it was true when the marker was first painted. 🤷‍♂️.

The fence went in in the early 60's I think. Probably by that time "440 to straight-away center field" had  become enough of a mantra the team just decided no-one would notice the difference. What I wonder is why they put up the fence. I suppose the straight wall was a cleaner look for TV, it made for a better batter's eye, and maybe there were complaints about the injury risk of the flagpole. Seems unlikely we will ever know.

Must be the Mandela effect because I would have lost a $100 on the flagpole still being in play at Tiger Stadium up until the end.  I recall it being mentioned as a distinctive feature.  

I loved Tiger Stadium but I am also not romantic about it.   All of these people still complaining about Comerica vs Tiger Stadium are the same ones who complain when a business closes but when you ask them the last time they patronized that business they say "Back when Bush was President.... the dad"

It was a great place when the crowd was under 20K.  Anything over that and you risked obstructed views, both in terms of a pole blocking some of the view and the upper deck blocking views of fly balls. 

[chasfh]

28 minutes ago, oblong said:

Must be the Mandela effect because I would have lost a $100 on the flagpole still being in play at Tiger Stadium up until the end.  I recall it being mentioned as a distinctive feature.  

I loved Tiger Stadium but I am also not romantic about it.   All of these people still complaining about Comerica vs Tiger Stadium are the same ones who complain when a business closes but when you ask them the last time they patronized that business they say "Back when Bush was President.... the dad"

It was a great place when the crowd was under 20K.  Anything over that and you risked obstructed views, both in terms of a pole blocking some of the view and the upper deck blocking views of fly balls. 

I could swear on a bible that the flag was in play the whole I lived there, through 1991.

I loved how close the upper deck was to home plate. I hated how cramped the seats were for daddy long legs-types like me.