monkeytargets39 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Watch a grooved fastball, then swing at two breaking balls in the dirt. Good AB Quote
guy incognito Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Here's an opportunity for some terrific last-minute dramatics. Quote
Crazy Cat Gentleman Posted October 6 Posted October 6 I'd be more excited about leaving Seattle with the series tied if I felt like the Tigers had any kind of home-field advantage lately. too many series losses/sweeps at home to end the season. Quote
oblong Posted October 6 Author Posted October 6 Why were Mariners fans singing Jack White’s song? Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 This team sure does know how to waste good Skubal starts 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 6 Posted October 6 7 minutes ago, JackMorrisStache said: Why are Mariners fans crying and hugging their girlfriends when going up by a run? Save the crying for when the Tigers take the lead in the top of the ninth! Who’s with me? This is the Mariners first playoff win in 24 years. Many of those fans have never witnessed a playoff win. Quote
Tigermojo Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Wasted opportunity but I think they still have the advantage. Quote
casimir Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Ok, got the split before heading home. This is doable. Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 6 Posted October 6 On the positive side, the Tigers struck out only 10 times tonight instead of what was it, 19 a while back? 1 Quote
tiger2022 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Maybe swing at first pitch fastballs right down the middle? Might be something to experiment with. How about not letting Perez play? Quote
JackMorrisStache Posted October 6 Posted October 6 17 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: This is the Mariners first playoff win in 24 years. Many of those fans have never witnessed a playoff win. Yes, I get that but the game wasn’t even over yet at that point. Too bad the M’s have won their final game of the 2025 campaign. 1 Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 6 Posted October 6 1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said: This is the Mariners first playoff win in 24 years. Many of those fans have never witnessed a playoff win. They have a history of missed opportunities, and great players that came and went. As a Tigers fan, relatively speaking, we have a vastly more extensive and storied history to draw upon for sustenance and they don’t. Comparatively speaking, for generations we have experienced cycles of manna from heaven, and wandering aimlessly in the desert. We have known heartbreak and deliverance, and they have known very little deliverance. So get why it’s important to them. Quote
oblong Posted October 6 Author Posted October 6 My day off tomorrow would have been a lot more enjoyable with a win. 6 weeks ago I picked these 3 days to burn assuming I’d be recovering from home games Saturday and Sunday. Now I get to go to two games. Relieves the pressure to find something “fun” to do. Quote
oblong Posted October 6 Author Posted October 6 Do they know they were singing a Jack White song at the end? And where he’s from and which team he’s a die hard fan of? Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 6 Posted October 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Do you think we should done whatever it would take, liquidate whatever prospects it would have take, to win the trade deadline, picking up Eugenio and Correa and Mason Miller and Ryan O’Hearn and Cedric Mullins and Ryan Helsley and whoever else, putting all the chips on the table to go all in this year, and just let next year be 2026 Scott Harris’s (or his replacement’s) problem? IOW, do you believe a team should always go all in 100% at all times whenever they;’re not rebuilding? It’s OK if you feel that way—a lot of fans feel this way, that you should never let a chance to compete balls out every chance you get, because it may never, ever, ever, ever happen again. Is this you as well? I want to answer this now. First off, I do not think they should have done whatever it takes and compromised their future to build around Tarik Skubal. I did not call for Harris to be reckless and irresponsible with the future of this franchise. I've never called for him to trade any of our top 3-4 prospects like Clark, McGonigle, Briceno, etc. What I did want foremost was for him to adjust the plan he had when he originally came into this organization and accelerate the timeline of his rebuild because he had the single, best starting pitcher in the game. Harris wasn't gifted the 5th, 8th, or 12th best pitcher, he had the very best one. That's something you have to build around. In my mind, building around Skubal meant the following. It meant adding two bats to the heart of this order and it meant adding another starter to this roster via free agency or a trade. Harris did not improve the lineup much at all with acquisitions since he's been the GM. He did improve the starting rotation for sure with the addition of Jack Flaherty and I commend him for it. He's been mostly a plus addition. And Harris was even more shrude for getting something for him and then bringing him back. Second, I wanted him to draft Wyatt Langford in 2023 over Max Clark, as did most fans and people here. This is not a knock on Clark or McGonigle. I'm extremely happy with the players they appear to be developing into. I love the McGonigle pick in particular. But Langford would have been one of my plus bats that I would have added to this lineup. Langford would be here, now, starting on our playoff roster. Third, like many, I wanted an upgrade at third base. Matt Chapman was my original ask of Harris and it appeared Harris didn't attempt to go that route. Now, Chapman wasn't great shakes this year, so it's not like I'd be proven right if he were here and not in SanFran. Harris had no plans or desire to add a third baseman and bat in the 23 offseason because it wasn't apart of his timeline to win apparently. I wanted Bregman this offseason and to Harris' credit, he tried and tried hard to get him. He made what I thought was an aggressive and fair offer for him. The problem is, after making the playoffs last year, Harris had no backup plan to Bregman. No trade options, no free agent bats we were linked to besides Bregman. Nothing. Alright big mouth (calling myself this), who did you want Harris to get if not Bregman? Answer, Willy Adames or Christan Walker. I was on board with Adames in the offseason. As well, I was on board with Walker for the DH slot instead of Keith. I would have split Tork and Keith at 1st. I know Adames didn't have a great year this year with the Giants. However, that doesn't garauntee he would have played as poorly here, under the guidance of AJ and his coaching staff. Maybe he does or doesn't. And I know, he strikes out a lot. But you know who else strikes out a lot, most of Harris' assembled lineup. We don't control the plate like Harris says he wants. We take bad swings at everything and strike out, a lot. So it's not like Adames is deviating much from the lineup Harris is currently fielding. As for the trade deadline, I was critical of Harris and wanted him to do more, even though I expected very little and got little. I wanted a bat of some kind, without breaking the bank. It didn't have to be a RHB, but someone who could help us compete with teams like Seattle and Toronto that we were likely to face in the playoffs. I know we weren't going to build a lineup equivalent to Toronto overnight. I didn't have that expectation. I know Suarez was not a realistic option either given the cost. But you know who could have been, Ryan O’Hearn. The Padres gave up their 6th, 8th, and 16th best prospect to get him. Not a Clark or McGonigle level prospect. O'Hearn DH'ing or playing the outfield would have been a huge addition to this lineup. Let's say was able to make 2 of the 4 moves I mentioned above. We already know one of them could have been made for sure, that's drafting Langford. Let's say drafting Langford and trading for O'Hearn was the move Harris made instead of what he did. What would our 2025 post season lineup look like then? 1st: Torres/2B 2nd: Carpenter/RF 3rd: Langford/LF 4th: Greene/CF 5th: O'Hearn/1B 6th: Torkelson/DH 7th: McKinstrey/3B 8th: Baez/SS 9th: Dingler/C Edited October 6 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote
IdahoBert Posted October 6 Posted October 6 18 minutes ago, oblong said: Do they know they were singing a Jack White song at the end? And where he’s from and which team he’s a die hard fan of? I wasn’t watching by then but I assume it was Seven Nation Army, which has become an anthem for everyone. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 38 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: Maybe swing at first pitch fastballs right down the middle? Might be something to experiment with. How about not letting Perez play? yup - they need to find the sweet spot between working a pitcher - which ended up failing tonight anyway as after getting him to 50 in two, they went down the next two in 18 total, and being too aggressive. And to me that means being more aggressive on the 1st pitch - don't allow guys to steal strikes, THEN get more conservative. You can still work pitchers and you won't always be in the hole. What has to be kept in mind is that absolute best way to work a pitch count is to get on base and make him face another hitter. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 52 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Parker is due Parker needs to have 500 more AB next season just like that one. He battled there as well as I have seen him all year. Quote
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