Week Thirteen: Green Bay Packers (7-3-1) @ Detroit Lions (7-4)

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Hutch and Alim are not playing at pre injury levels.  The IOL has been trashed by injuries.  It's frustrating 

It will be even more frustrating if the IOL gets healthy and the offense starts clicking after it no longer matters

I don't know what Glasgow's PFF grades have been, but he has felt like a weak link all year long. So I don't know, given his age and decline in play, that he would ever be clicking with this line. He's just a not that good a player at this stage on his career. It's why bringing back a Zeitler or getting a similar player in the offseason was wanted by many. That way a guy like Ratledge could have possibly taken snaps at Center or possibly rode the bench for part of the season while they tried Glasgow out.

[Nate7474]

2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I don't know what Glasgow's PFF grades have been, but he has felt like a weak link all year long. So I don't know, given his age and decline in play, that he would ever be clicking with this line. He's just a not that good a player at this stage on his career. It's why bringing back a Zeitler or getting a similar player in the offseason was wanted by many. That way a guy like Ratledge could have possibly taken snaps at Center or possibly rode the bench for part of the season while they tried Glasgow out.

59.3 or 28/38 of graded centers overall

59.8 or 21/38 pass block 

58.6 or 33/38 run block 

Basically he is not even playing at a replacement level. I would be shocked if he is on next year’s roster. 

[sagnam]

6 hours ago, Kacie said:

I think that's the issue.  At least for me it is.  We gave up multiple picks to move up to get a guy who's raw and a work in progress? I didn't like it at the time and even less so now. The pass catching is one thing, but his blocking is atrocious. I don't understand why they aren't in win now mode. 

I think the coaches are being stupid playing crappy players like Raymond and Kennedy over him and it’s indicative of a bigger issue. We hoard draft picks like they are prized possessions because the players we draft will help us win but then after spending all that draft capital we don’t even play the player. 

I like the fact that he caught a TD on 2 targets is some sort of vindication.

[sagnam]

3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Do you understand football? TeSlaa is a rookie. Raymond has been around for several years. I would expect the Lions to have more routes for Raymond as well as Goff having more confidence in a receiver he's known for years over a rookie he's only known for months. I repeat, the Lions are lucky to have TeSlaa.

Calm down, you aren’t a professional. You are on a message board like the rest of us.

[Motown Bombers]

They said from the beginning Teslaa was a project and would not play a lot the first year. 

[Motown Bombers]

9 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I don't know what Glasgow's PFF grades have been, but he has felt like a weak link all year long. So I don't know, given his age and decline in play, that he would ever be clicking with this line. He's just a not that good a player at this stage on his career. It's why bringing back a Zeitler or getting a similar player in the offseason was wanted by many. That way a guy like Ratledge could have possibly taken snaps at Center or possibly rode the bench for part of the season while they tried Glasgow out.

Zeitler signed before Ragnow retired. People want the line to get younger but don't actually want to play young players. 

[Klondike]

10 hours ago, Nate7474 said:

59.3 or 28/38 of graded centers overall

59.8 or 21/38 pass block 

58.6 or 33/38 run block 

Basically he is not even playing at a replacement level. I would be shocked if he is on next year’s roster. 

It's too bad. He had one great hot streak and seemed to lose it. I remember when Glasgow was good. Sad to see such digression. 

[Sports_Freak]

8 hours ago, sagnam said:

Calm down, you aren’t a professional. You are on a message board like the rest of us.

I'm relaxed. It's just some people can't seem to understand why a rookie #3 receiver isn't taking #1 receiver routes. Or why there aren't multiple routes called for him. Or even why a veteran QB isnt on the same page after 4 or 5 months with a rookie. But yeah, he's a bust and Brad is an idiot for drafting him? No, like I said, we're lucky to have him.

[TP_Fan]

The lions haven’t led in regulation since st browns trump dance.  Then he has all the drops and gets injured.  ****ing guy cursed himself and the team. 

[Shinzaki]

At least we won the halftime show.   Jack White and Eminem have released it on most streaming services

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Zeitler signed before Ragnow retired. People want the line to get younger but don't actually want to play young players. 

Zeitler and Ratlegde were both still needed in-case Glasgow was cooked and Ragnow retired. Graham didn't look great last year, but was held up by guys like Ragnow and Zeitler on the interior. Now, it seems he just isn't that good as an interior lineman any longer. I wanted both Zietler (which they didn't get) and a draft pick (which they got in Ratledge) as insurance policies for a drop off in play from Glasgow. I know I was not alone in wanting them to bring back Zeitler or bring in a replacement level guard AND go out and draft someone at the interior of the offensive line.

[RatkoVarda]

something else that needs to be fixed. after hitting gold in 2021-23 drafts, the 2024 and 2025 drafts are looking rough for Brad

traded up to get Arnold - plenty of 2nd round CBs look to be equal if not better than him so far

Rakestraw, showed nothing in small doses when not injured

traded up for Manu and then traded up for Vaki - LOL! Why???

Wingo is too small for what Dan, Glenn and now Shep want on the DL so he never plays

Mahongany - best pick

Williams - outplayed by other DTs picked much later so far

traded up for Ratledge - A+

traded up for TeSlaa, again, trading up for a project who would have been there when you picked

traded up for Fraizer - loved him in SEC, not healthy, but this guy is going to contribute something next year

Hassen - come on, really?

Jackson and Lovett - whatever.

the reason Brad does not want to give up picks in trades at the deadline, is because he either already has or is planning to use them in the draft, when he trades up to get "his" guys, like Brodic Martin

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Zeitler and Ratlegde were both still needed in-case Glasgow was cooked and Ragnow retired. Graham didn't look great last year, but was held up by guys like Ragnow and Zeitler on the interior. Now, it seems he just isn't that good as an interior lineman any longer. I wanted both Zietler (which they didn't get) and a draft pick (which they got in Ratledge) as insurance policies for a drop off in play from Glasgow. I know I was not alone in wanting them to bring back Zeitler or bring in a replacement level guard AND go out and draft someone at the interior of the offensive line.

Glasgow wasn't even projected to be a starter. Mahogany was replacing Glasgow and Ratledge replacing Zeitler. They don't have the cap space for expensive insurance policies. Zeitler has also declined this year. 

[MichiganCardinal]

It’s hard not to blame coaching to some extent. Obviously there are the offensive problems, but even that has to fall at the feet of the people who hired those people.

With the amount of talent on this team, it’s inexcusable to be 7-5. It’s even worse to be 1-3 in the division. Bumps in the road are okay, and are going to happen. Sometimes you’ll lose games like yesterday when the officials decide to acknowledge the opponent’s timeouts a second early but not your own challenge a second late. NFL games are too competitive to lose as many as 11 points due to uncontrollable elements.

But you can’t allow them to snowball. And it sure feels like they are, despite managing to not lose two in a row all this time.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

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