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[Deleterious]

 

[gehringer_2]

21 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

always respected Barney - he knew his stuff. If more people in Washington understood economics like Barney did we'd be in a better place.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

What is your point with the note above the video?  

[Motown Bombers]

15 minutes ago, romad1 said:

What is your point with the note above the video?  

What note?

[romad1]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

What note?

I was thinking about the idea of a US vet criticizing other US Mil. 

Its not fun to see it but its pretty damn common. 

[romad1]

14 hours ago, romad1 said:

I was thinking about the idea of a US vet criticizing other US Mil. 

Its not fun to see it but its pretty damn common. 

There is also a scene from the R. Lee Ermy vehicle "Siege of Firebase Gloria" that is similar -- but too gross to show here.  He's got the severed heads of two guys in his hands and he's lecturing the defensive perimeter that Corporal Miller (whose severed head is in his right hand being  held by his hair) allowed the gun pit to be captured and that he no longer has any respect for Corporal Miller.  

Its a movie of course and for Vietnam era fodder a pretty decent B movie.  

[Motown Bombers]

Congratulations Governor Benson. I’m emailing John James with the good news. 

 

[Tigerbomb13]

This is great news.

[gehringer_2]

dems acting like they want to win. who knew?

[oblong]

She kind of tore him up at a discussion held not far from my house earlier this week. I  wish I had known it was going on but it was a UAW hall so maybe attendance was restricted.

 

[Tiger337]

On 5/20/2026 at 10:52 AM, Deleterious said:

 

I use to be blissfully ignorant of politics (and my life was better then!), but what I most remember about Barney Frank was him coming out as gay and everybody talking about it like it was a horrible crime that would destroy him.  

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I've been a Benson supporter from day one. I'm elated to see that Mike Duggan is dropping out. Independent races are generally an uphill battle and doomed from the start. I hope he comes out and supports Jocelyn now. 

[romad1]

5 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Congratulations Governor Benson. I’m emailing John James with the good news. 

 

That is surprising 

[LaceyLou]

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I use to be blissfully ignorant of politics (and my life was better then!), but what I most remember about Barney Frank was him coming out as gay and everybody talking about it like it was a horrible crime that would destroy him.  

He spoke at my college's graduation that year, only weeks after coming out. People were definitely angry. He ended up giving a very interesting talk, though.

[pfife]

He was a pretty unique individual, back in the day he did a lot of combativr TV hits with Bill Orielly iirc.   He seemed very informed and great at presenting his case and his disheveled look was hilarious.    

[gehringer_2]

Per WAPO today:

Ken Martin releases controversial 2024 Democratic 'autopsy' report. 

- blames Biden for not grooming Harris as a national figure

- concludes that tran-gender issues played  badly for Harris and the party

- concludes dems did not hit Trump as hard as was needed

- states that going back to Obama the Dems have neglected party building.

- blames party for writing off too many areas

Story concludes with:

"The autopsy says the Democratic Party and its candidates have lost voters’ trust. “In the face of misinformation and disinformation, our candidates have proven incapable of projecting strength, unity, and leadership, and voters have drifted away,”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/05/21/democratic-national-committee-releases-contentious-autopsy-2024-campaign/

[oblong]

Democrats get held to normal standards and the GOP can be bat**** crazy.

It's like siblings.  The oldest one gets all the good grades, does charity work, well behaved.  The youngest is a screwup but plays football and makes people laugh and gets girls so everybody gives them a pass.

We just watched the movie Parenthood again last week and the dems are Steve Martin and the GOP is Tom Hulce.

Always given a break, never has to be accountable.

 

[Motown Bombers]

LOL now it’s Biden’s fault Harris failed? Was there anything about running a coop and throwing your incumbent nominee under the bus? 

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

LOL now it’s Biden’s fault Harris failed? Was there anything about running a coop and throwing your incumbent nominee under the bus? 

the point about Harris having a poor VP-ship is absolutely true. The open question is “Why”. Did Biden not give her any high profile projects with easy wins because he wouldn’t or because she couldn’t? at this point the people who know probably aren’t saying. 

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

the point about Harris having a poor VP-ship is absolutely true. The open question is “Why”. Did Biden not give her any high profile projects with easy wins because he wouldn’t or because she couldn’t? at this point the people who know probably aren’t saying. 

What was poor about her VP-ship? 

[pfife]

I think most of that list seems plausible to accurate.  The dems should not be GOP lite to trans folks.

Edited 7 hours ago by pfife

[gehringer_2]

21 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

What was poor about her VP-ship? 

name anything positive she got credit for. the highest profile issue Biden supposedly asked her to lead on was “the border” which was the single most toxic issue for the dems by the election. her 4 yrs as VP did her no favors in terms of building a positive political profile. was she bad at her job? did Biden sabotage her because he didn’t want her to have a strong argument for him not to run,? IDK, but VP did not turn out to be a very good gig for her. 

it’s really not a good spot to run from anyway, in recent decades VPs have lost more often than won. 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

name anything positive she got credit for. the highest profile issue Biden supposedly asked her to lead on was “the border” which was the single most toxic issue for the dems by the election. her 4 yrs as VP did her no favors in terms of building a positive political profile. was she bad at her job? did Biden sabotage her because he didn’t want her to have a strong argument for him not to run,? IDK, but VP did not turn out to be a very good gig for her. 

it’s really not a good spot to run from anyway, in recent decades VPs have lost more often than won. 

 

That was a failure of the media. Harris was never the border czar as the media portrayed her. Harris was also put in charge of rallying support in Europe for Ukraine and leading the abortion issue. Not buying it. Biden himself was VP and in charge of passing Obamacare which was not popular at the time. He did fine until the party ran a coop on him. 

[chasfh]

Harris was the cipher of a vice president that every modern VP outside of Cheney has been. Even J.D. Couch****er is a big zero as far as that goes, no matter how loud he becomes or how many news cycles he hijacks. There is almost nothing in their vice presidency a candidate can point to and say that makes them qualified to be president, and Harris was no exception.