05/18/2026 6:40p EDT Cleveland Guardians at Detroit Tigers

[motownblues]

If there is not drastic moves made soon this is is easily a 100 loss team.

[lordstanley]

 

[gehringer_2]

And WHY ARE WE EVEN PITCHING TO RAMIREZ?

 

[gehringer_2]

This is pretty much the sane offense is we already saw all through last Sept.

Edited 13 hours ago by gehringer_2

[tiger2022]

Working the count is overrated.  Starters are done after 5 anyway and usually the bullpen is full of guys going all out for one inning

Go up there hacking, Tork

[Motor City Sonics]

They can't keep running Tork out there.   They just can't.   He's a black hole.     

[kdog]

 

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, motownblues said:

If there is not drastic moves made soon this is is easily a 100 loss team.

yup, It's a 94 loss pace now and still going down hill fast.

[kdog]

 

[Motor City Sonics]

So the injuries will be the thing the team and organization hangs this on.   But what if Baez, Carpenter, Meadows don't bring them out of it?   What if they continue like this?     Why is it seemingly impossible to suggest parting ways with Hinch?   It's not working.   We had a run there for a bit, but that was pixie dust.  Other than that August 2024 to June 2025 run, has this team every really been good with Hinch?    

[gehringer_2]

I wonder how much teams use the fact that they know the Tigers do detailed game planning against everyone to counterplan and come out pitching against type, so the Tigers end up wasting who knows how many AB before they realize their game plan was down the drain before they started.

Edited 13 hours ago by gehringer_2

[monkeytargets39]

I don’t want to see Wenceel Perez, Zack Short or Enmannuel DeJesus on the roster tomorrow morning.  Enough is enough.  Call up Jace Jung and give him a real look at 1B and bench Torkelson.  Call up Anderson, Malgeri and Sommers.  
 

Stop running out the same garbage each night.

 

[tiger2022]

Ramirez could be a HOFer just based on his games against Detroit.  

The offense is still on Harris.  He hasn't added one solid bat since he's been the GM.  But thank goodness we used the $13 million on Verlander and $30 million on Valdez.  Terrible signings 

Edited 12 hours ago by tiger2022

[SoCalTiger]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

I wonder how much teams use the fact that they know the Tigers do detailed game planning against everyone to counterplan and come out pitching against type, so the Tigers end up wasting who knows how many AB before they realize their game plan was down the drain before they started.

That was noted during the game. Coming into tonight Cleveland had the lowest first pitch swing percentage in baseball so knowing the Tigers would play to that they flipped the switch and swung early. And scored Big.

[tiger2022]

2 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

That was noted during the game. Coming into tonight Cleveland had the lowest first pitch swing percentage in baseball so knowing the Tigers would play to that they flipped the switch and swung early. And scored Big.

But I was told Hinch is the most brilliant manager in baseball.

[SoCalTiger]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

So the injuries will be the thing the team and organization hangs this on.   But what if Baez, Carpenter, Meadows don't bring them out of it?   What if they continue like this?     Why is it seemingly impossible to suggest parting ways with Hinch?   It's not working.   We had a run there for a bit, but that was pixie dust.  Other than that August 2024 to June 2025 run, has this team every really been good with Hinch?    

We have been playing bad baseball for many months despite a good playoff run but I do not think Hinch is the problem. At least not yet. 

[SoCalTiger]

1 minute ago, tiger2022 said:

But I was told Hinch is the most brilliant manager in baseball.

Maybe the hitters are over coached ? Is that possible ? IDK

[tiger2022]

I think Hinch's brilliance had a lot to do with garbage can lids.  

Edited 12 hours ago by tiger2022

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said:

That was noted during the game. Coming into tonight Cleveland had the lowest first pitch swing percentage in baseball so knowing the Tigers would play to that they flipped the switch and swung early. And scored Big.

shouldn't your battery figure that out after maybe two batters?

This has always been the limiting factor with tendency statistics about players/teams. If I measure the output tolerance distribution of a screw machine, the results are fixed by the fact that it is a fully determinant process. It will reliably produce exactly what my measurements predict it will. In sport, almost everything you measure about an athlete has some determinate properties, but it also always has an indeterminate component as well because what an athlete does is always subject to what he decides to try to do, and he can decide to change that at any time.

Edited 11 hours ago by gehringer_2

[NorthWoods]

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

yup, It's a 94 loss pace now and still going down hill fast.

Soon the hope will be Skubal pitching well again so we can speculate on the deadline trade.

 

[Tiger337]

7 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

I think Hinch's brilliance had a lot to do with garbage can lids.  

Is that how the Tigers came back in 2024?  

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, Shelton said:

You didn’t seriously cite Kerry and gleyber May numbers.

I’m not disputing your conclusion. This team is ass right now. 
 

But come on, bro. 

Carpenter and Gleyber had good Aprils, we are not getting similar performances from them in Mays, and that’s a factor in the team’s poor numbers this month. Not sure what you think I’m not seeing.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

We have been playing bad baseball for many months despite a good playoff run but I do not think Hinch is the problem. At least not yet. 

I do think it’s fair to question Hinch’s recent inability to keep the team from playing like the walking dead.

[gehringer_2]

Just now, chasfh said:

I do think it’s fair to question Hinch’s recent inability to keep the team from playing like the walking dead.

it’s the same question from last Sept, and the problem is you can’t prove the negative. Is there something in prep, or clubhouse management or the subtleties of Hinch’s approach to individual players that would make a difference? Should he opt for a different set of or approach by the Tiger’s hitting coaches? Who knows? 

on the flip side, besides Torkelson, who we know tends to be a head case about his approach, who is hitting badly that there is be a well founded expectation should be doing better? Mck? Perez? Rogers? Jones? We are playing a bunch of guys for whom the run from July of 24 to July of 25 was more likely the outlier of their career. The 3 guys out right now, Carp, Baez and Torres are the guys with track records in which you might have a level of confidence. 

[kdog]

Rogers is essentially hitting like a pitcher. His offense is completely gone...at some point you can't live with that.

Perez might not be good...McKinstry has always been a fringe/gritty major leaguer. Tork and Keith were relied on and can't consistently deliver floor-level production. That's the killer