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05/21/2026 1:10p EDT Cleveland Guardians at Detroit Tigers


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55 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

the Tiger debate is becoming like the Candelario debate. Are they a bad team that had a good stretch, or a good team that's having a bad stretch? 

Despite the pitching injuries they've had, the staff is managing to throw winnable games. I just don't have much confidence that adding one solid but not spectacular bat in Torres and one mediocre at best bat in Baez is any kind of slam dunk remedy for this offense.

McGonigle, Keith and Torkelson have all had bad months.  They could come back too.  They were scoring enough in April to win games and they could get back to that.  Odds are against the team right now, but I am not ready to give up in May.  

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I wish we could hear what Andy and Jason talk about during commercial breaks. I would really like to know how they really feel about this Tigers team and season.

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7 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

That is depressing to think about.  I am looking for the Tigers to get healthy and get hot.  It seems like teams usually don't get great prospects for rentals at the deadline.  Teams like the Dodgers just give up their flawed prospects.  Looking forward to another Thayron Liranzo and Trey Sweeney haul.  

And all they got was two months of Jack Flaherty so I think we got the better end of that little deal.

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6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

the Tiger debate is becoming like the Candelario debate. Are they a bad team that had a good stretch, or a good team that's having a bad stretch? 

They’re an organization that built a division favorite but that still has to field a team when a lot of their good guys get injured.

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A third of the way into the season and the Tigers are now a sub-.400 team. I don’t think even tiger2022 saw that one coming. 😉 

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Posted
1 hour ago, chasfh said:

And all they got was two months of Jack Flaherty so I think we got the better end of that little deal.

I wish the Tigers only got two months of Sweeney!  

It terms of WAR, the Tigers have lost that deal so far.  However, that is not the point.  The point is fans always think their team can get great prospects at the deadline and they usually just get players the other team doesn't want to keep that badly.  

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For what it’s worth, Sweeney did help us get to the playoffs during pitching chaos ‘24.

I don’t understand how you can be one of the best teams for over a half season and turn into one of the worst over the same time period with largely the same roster.

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That's one of great things about Harris never making big transactions.  You can do a longitudinal analysis!

Tigers record from 7/1/24 - 6/30/25: 101-62

Tigers record from 7/1/25 - 5/21/26: 54-73

Mostly the same roster for both periods.You could argue that their roster has been somewhat "better" in the latter period.  

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9 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

That's one of great things about Harris never making big transactions.  You can do a longitudinal analysis!

Tigers record from 7/1/24 - 6/30/25: 101-62

Tigers record from 7/1/25 - 5/21/26: 54-73

Mostly the same roster for both periods.You could argue that their roster has been somewhat "better" in the latter period.  

Even before the injuries they weren't exactly setting the world on fire this season, they were .500.    I think we had a lucky stretch where McKinstry, Baez and a couple other players played way above their average and now they are literally crashing before our eyes.        

When Baez, Carpenter and Meadows come back - and they are still welll below .500 (which is what I think is going to happen),  do they even consider changing managers? 

I just don't know why Hinch seems so untouchable.   August 2024 - June 2025 looks more lucky than good now, doesn't it?  

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8 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I just don't know why Hinch seems so untouchable.   August 2024 - June 2025 looks more lucky than good now, doesn't it?  

I still don't know.  Recency bias says yeah, but the same group played at 100-game pace for a full season.  The truth is probably between the two extremes.  The problem is playing .500 ball or little better after getting healthy again won't get them to post-season this year.  

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10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I wish the Tigers only got two months of Sweeney!  

It terms of WAR, the Tigers have lost that deal so far.  However, that is not the point.  The point is fans always think their team can get great prospects at the deadline and they usually just get players the other team doesn't want to keep that badly.  

Cleveland did pretty good on a few deals. I dont remember the details but I read an article a few months ago about some of their trades. But yeah, it's pretty rare to get talent back. Who would trade future All Star talent for a couple of months of an All Star pitcher?

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We could be like the Braves last year where injuries derailed the season (about the same timing too) but they recovered this year (2028 for us). 

 

Or we could be the Orioles - who looked like a young contending team two years ago - but the management didn't bolster it and those young players crashed down to earth and they look like they are ready to start rebuilding again after a two-year run.  

 

I feel like we are the Orioles here. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Cleveland did pretty good on a few deals. I dont remember the details but I read an article a few months ago about some of their trades. But yeah, it's pretty rare to get talent back. Who would trade future All Star talent for a couple of months of an All Star pitcher?

The Tigers?

Adames.   Smoltz.  

And..............

Hanly Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez, Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Carlos Baerga, Joe Carter, Adam Wainwright, Michael Brantley, Jay Buhner, Corey Kluber, Jeff Bagwell, Jason Varitek, derek Lowe, Curt Schilling, Moises Alou, David Ortiz

Were all traded mid season as prospects...and I know I'm missing many as well as lesser but yet successful players.    The Tigers dismal track record doesn't mean everyone fails.

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