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1 hour ago, buddha said:

guys, i'm beginning to think this team isnt very good.

The team is currently composed of a bunch of individuals with ranges of performances scoping out from their skill set as a middle point.  There’s a group of players performing below that middle point and there’s a group of players that have a middle point lower than where it was assumed to be and there’s a group of players in the both of those scenarios.  Ain’t good right now.

It kind of reminds me of the 2008 team that was going to score 1,000 runs.  Now, this current team wasn’t going to score 1,000 runs.  But it sure is t delivering on the preseason expectations.  The problem is that while there have been a slew of injuries, that variance doesn’t bridge the entirety of the gap between what should be and what currently is.

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2 minutes ago, casimir said:

The problem is that while there have been a slew of injuries, that variance doesn’t bridge the entirety of the gap between what should be and what currently is.

this is true. But to be fair, I think there is at least some synergy to hitting; as the number of dangerous hitters in a lineup falls, it gets easier for the opposing pitchers overall and I think that tends to make it tougher for the rest of the hitters as well. Or another way to put it is that unless you are Barry Bonds, it's tougher to be a good hitter on a bad hitting team.

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6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

this is true. But to be fair, I think there is at least some synergy to hitting; as the number of dangerous hitters in a lineup falls, it gets easier for the opposing pitchers overall and I think that tends to make it tougher for the rest of the hitters as well. Or another way to put it is that unless you are Barry Bonds, it's tougher to be a good hitter on a bad hitting team.

That’s fair, too.  That might explain part of Torkelson’s struggles, as an example.  He’s not a guy to build an offense around, but can helpful as a 6th hitter in the lineup.

The same is probably true with the defense.  Meadows’ injury creates heavier responsibility for both corners.  Probably a similar deal on the infield with Baez out.

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Before last night, there were seventeen different unique stretches in Tigers history in which we went 2-15 or worse across a stretch of 17 or more games. We did so multiple times in 1975 (twice), 1996 (twice), and 2003 (four different times!), but, incredibly, not 2019.

Here they all are, and here was each team's final record for each of those seasons.

Season Stretch Record Dates Final Record WPCT Finish
1902 2-18 (20G) Aug 10 – Aug 31 52-83 .385 7th, AL
1931 2-16 (18G) May 17 – Jun 4 61-93 .396 7th, AL
1953 1-16 (17G) May 18 – Jun 7 60-94 .390 6th, AL
1959 2-15 (17G) Apr 10 – May 2 76-78 .494 4th, AL
1975 2-15 (17G) Jun 16 – Jun 30 57-102 .358 6th, AL East
1975 0-17 (17G) Jul 29 – Aug 12 57-102 .358 6th, AL East
1982 2-15 (17G) Jun 11 – Jun 29 83-79 .512 4th, AL East
1989 2-16 (18G) Jul 3 – Jul 24 59-103 .364 7th, AL East
1996 1-19 (20G) May 14 – Jun 6 53-109 .327 5th, AL East
1996 2-19 (21G) Sep 7 – Sep 29 53-109 .327 5th, AL East
2003 1-17 (18G) Mar 31 – Apr 22 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2003 2-21 (23G) Jun 5 – Jun 29 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2003 2-18 (20G) Aug 3 – Aug 23 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2003 1-16 (17G) Sep 5 – Sep 22 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2017 2-16 (18G) Sep 9 – Sep 27 64-98 .395 5th, AL Central
2019 2-17 (19G) Jul 5 – Jul 28 47-114 .292 5th, AL Central
2021 2-16 (18G) Apr 15 – May 4 77-85 .475 3rd, AL Central
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I think we might be getting to the point where roster changes are necessary even before guys come off the list. Ben Malgeri at the very least. Corey Julks as a LF would have to displace Riley, and that's not happening, unless we're going to front-burner the Riley Greene First Base Experience, which, I could be talked into. I don't know if it's Max Clark yet, because he's not doing great, but how about Max Anderson? Although his one walk against 58 at bats at AAA probably won't play well up here. But at least this would give us new players to whinge about when they flop around on the field.

Who are we going to throw at the bullpen (or, to translate for some, "BP") wall? After all, if Ricky Vanasco, who has a 0.53 ERA, 0.88 WHIP, .161 BA against, and 31 Ks and 5 BBs in 17 iP in Toledo, can get the call and completely face-plant up here, how can we expect anyone else to do any better?

These are the times that try fans' souls.

 

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Rob Thompson, Alex Cora, Joe Maddon, Dave Martinez and Bob Melvin. There aren't many managerial candidates better than AJ Hinch and that's what is saving his job at this time. 

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Just now, Tiger337 said:

1982 was interesting, because they had a winning record that year.  They were tied for first before they collapsed in June.  

I will get interested as it gets closer to the deadline, but right now it's depressing to think about.  I am Tired of the Tigers being so bad that they have to sell at the deadline.  

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28 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I will get interested as it gets closer to the deadline, but right now it's depressing to think about.  I am Tired of the Tigers being so bad that they have to sell at the deadline.  

I feel like they're close to competing, they just need to reset the team a bit.  I think they need some players that irritate you if they're on an opposing team.   Jahmai Jones and Wenceel Perez get under no one's skin nor do they motivate their teammates.  We need an edge.

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5 hours ago, chasfh said:

Before last night, there were seventeen different unique stretches in Tigers history in which we went 2-15 or worse across a stretch of 17 or more games. We did so multiple times in 1975 (twice), 1996 (twice), and 2003 (four different times!), but, incredibly, not 2019.

Here they all are, and here was each team's final record for each of those seasons.

Season Stretch Record Dates Final Record WPCT Finish
1902 2-18 (20G) Aug 10 – Aug 31 52-83 .385 7th, AL
1931 2-16 (18G) May 17 – Jun 4 61-93 .396 7th, AL
1953 1-16 (17G) May 18 – Jun 7 60-94 .390 6th, AL
1959 2-15 (17G) Apr 10 – May 2 76-78 .494 4th, AL
1975 2-15 (17G) Jun 16 – Jun 30 57-102 .358 6th, AL East
1975 0-17 (17G) Jul 29 – Aug 12 57-102 .358 6th, AL East
1982 2-15 (17G) Jun 11 – Jun 29 83-79 .512 4th, AL East
1989 2-16 (18G) Jul 3 – Jul 24 59-103 .364 7th, AL East
1996 1-19 (20G) May 14 – Jun 6 53-109 .327 5th, AL East
1996 2-19 (21G) Sep 7 – Sep 29 53-109 .327 5th, AL East
2003 1-17 (18G) Mar 31 – Apr 22 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2003 2-21 (23G) Jun 5 – Jun 29 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2003 2-18 (20G) Aug 3 – Aug 23 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2003 1-16 (17G) Sep 5 – Sep 22 43-119 .265 5th, AL Central
2017 2-16 (18G) Sep 9 – Sep 27 64-98 .395 5th, AL Central
2019 2-17 (19G) Jul 5 – Jul 28 47-114 .292 5th, AL Central
2021 2-16 (18G) Apr 15 – May 4 77-85 .475 3rd, AL Central

none of those seem very good.

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4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

The only reason I'll watch is that I like to be hurt. Banging my arm in the car door isn't doing it any more. 🥹

hockey season wasnt enough for you, eh?

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