2026 Trade deadline

[papalawrence]

Just for ratings comparison, when JV was traded Franklin Perez was 39 and Daz Cameron was 75 on the mlb top 100 prospects list at the time of the trade. Still a crap shoot. Had hoped Sheehan was part of the deal

Edited August 2 by papalawrence

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, Graterol said:

Gleyber needs to be moved. Not only a FA, but Tigers need to figure out if Lee, Anderson, and/or Jung are worthy of being on a good mlb roster.

Valdez/Melton/Olson/Jobe/River Ryan/Montero and FA or 2. Hopefully that is enough to build a solid rotation going in to next year.

Need to get something for Mize. I would probably keep Flaherty unless tigs actually get something decent 

 

Isn't Flaherty on the injured list? Injured players used to not be allowed to be traded, I think?

[buddha]

i dont get the dodger hate.  any other team could have beaten that offer and they chose not to do it.

why are the brewers ****ing around?  you havent won jack since 1982 and the best pitcher on the market is available and you cant beat that offer?

dont cry about dodger money when you dont even try to win.  this trade had nothing to do with money.

[papalawrence]

6 minutes ago, buddha said:

i dont get the dodger hate.  any other team could have beaten that offer and they chose not to do it.

why are the brewers ****ing around?  you havent won jack since 1982 and the best pitcher on the market is available and you cant beat that offer?

dont cry about dodger money when you dont even try to win.  this trade had nothing to do with money.

I don't hate the Dodgers for doing whatever they can to win within the rules. I hate them because they win, win, win. Just like I hate the Yankees and Red Sox. I hate the Dodgers!

[Motown Bombers]

The only reason Skubal is available is because the Tigers can't compete with teams like the Dodgers. Maybe the Brewers didn't offer more because he would strictly be a rental vs the Dodgers ability to offer him a blank check. This only happens in baseball where teams are forced to trade players because they can't afford to re-sign them. 

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, papalawrence said:

I don't hate the Dodgers for doing whatever they can to win within the rules. I hate them because they win, win, win. Just like I hate the Yankees and Red Sox. I hate the Dodgers!

I don't hate the Dodgers, I hate MLB. 

[papalawrence]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I don't hate the Dodgers, I hate MLB. 

I hate all of the major sports leagues. Greedy. Now we have to sign up for several streaming sites to watch the games. How long before every event is pay per view? But I still hate the Dodgers

Edited August 2 by papalawrence

[Tenacious D]

So much hate!

[monkeytargets39]

I feel that the return is weak, but part of that is because I don’t view Skubal as a rental for them.  I expect him to sign there in the offseason and they probably do too—and now they have negotiating time with him.

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

I hate all of the major sports leagues. Greedy. Now we have to sign up for several streaming sites to watch the games. How long before every event is pay per view? But I still hate the Dodgers

The NFL has parody. That's why it's the best league in sports. The best teams are in Kansas City, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Buffalo etc. The worst teams are in New York. The best teams are the ones that can draft and develop. 

[RedTeamGo!]

16 minutes ago, buddha said:

i dont get the dodger hate.  any other team could have beaten that offer and they chose not to do it.

why are the brewers ****ing around?  you havent won jack since 1982 and the best pitcher on the market is available and you cant beat that offer?

dont cry about dodger money when you dont even try to win.  this trade had nothing to do with money.

I don’t disagree, however, I’m guessing the Tigers were demanding Jesus Made.

i can understand why the brewers wouldn’t do that 

[buddha]

4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The only reason Skubal is available is because the Tigers can't compete with teams like the Dodgers. Maybe the Brewers didn't offer more because he would strictly be a rental vs the Dodgers ability to offer him a blank check. This only happens in baseball where teams are forced to trade players because they can't afford to re-sign them. 

if the brewers decided not to go for it because they might not be able to re-sogn him, that's loser talk.  all those "prized prospects" are not going to work out.  deal them to win now, worry about how good cameron maybin and andrew miller will be later.

baseball has the best salary system of any league.  it does a much better job of controlling labor costs for the most productive years of players' careers, while also allowing teams who want to compete to avoid the ridiculous salary constraints other leagues place on them.

the brewers could have put misrowski and skubal into a 5 or 7 game rotation.  that could have beaten the dodgers.  instead they'll sit around and hope jesus made can hit a curveball in 2 years.  weak sauce.

i applaud the dodgers for trying to win.

[1984Echoes]

20 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

So Hope is prolly 2 years away? Most prospects never work out. Did yhe Dodgers overvalue him?

2 years?

Hope will be in Spring Training next year with a real chance to win an OF job to start the season. If he doesn't win RF outright, on the Opening Day roster... he will still be up sometime in 2027... May/ June/ July? Just a guess at this point. But we will see him in Detroit at some point in 2027.

IMO.

[1984Echoes]

18 minutes ago, buddha said:

... why are the brewers ****ing around?  you havent won jack since 1982 and the best pitcher on the market is available and you cant beat that offer? ...

Huge and SO valid a point.

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

if the brewers decided not to go for it because they might not be able to re-sogn him, that's loser talk.  all those "prized prospects" are not going to work out.  deal them to win now, worry about how good cameron maybin and andrew miller will be later.

baseball has the best salary system of any league.  it does a much better job of controlling labor costs for the most productive years of players' careers, while also allowing teams who want to compete to avoid the ridiculous salary constraints other leagues place on them.

the brewers could have put misrowski and skubal into a 5 or 7 game rotation.  that could have beaten the dodgers.  instead they'll sit around and hope jesus made can hit a curveball in 2 years.  weak sauce.

i applaud the dodgers for trying to win.

I mean, Skubal wasn't the difference maker for the Tigers last year. Maybe the Brewers didn't want to put all their eggs in one basket for one year. They've done that multiple times in the past and it didn't work out. 

[Sports_Freak]

3 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

2 years?

Hope will be in Spring Training next year with a real chance to win an OF job to start the season. If he doesn't win RF outright, on the Opening Day roster... he will still be up sometime in 2027... May/ June/ July? Just a guess at this point. But we will see him in Detroit at some point in 2027.

IMO.

So you're saying, in your opinion, he's a can't miss prospect? When a huge percent of prospects do miss...

[Tiger337]

The Brewers are a great organization with an average payroll.  They need to keep their best prospects to be a perennial contender.  Getting Skubal does not guarantee a championship and not getting him does not guarantee they lose it.  The idea that nobody can beat the Dodgers is way overblown.  The just barely won last year.  The Brewers can still beat them this year without Skubal.  

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

if the brewers decided not to go for it because they might not be able to re-sogn him, that's loser talk.  all those "prized prospects" are not going to work out.  deal them to win now, worry about how good cameron maybin and andrew miller will be later.

baseball has the best salary system of any league.  it does a much better job of controlling labor costs for the most productive years of players' careers, while also allowing teams who want to compete to avoid the ridiculous salary constraints other leagues place on them.

the brewers could have put misrowski and skubal into a 5 or 7 game rotation.  that could have beaten the dodgers.  instead they'll sit around and hope jesus made can hit a curveball in 2 years.  weak sauce.

i applaud the dodgers for trying to win.

With the Brewers too, it comes down to having a track record of developing prospects. Take a little confidence in that and act accordingly. The fact that they didn't make the deal here says a lot.

[monkeytargets39]

25 minutes ago, buddha said:

i dont get the dodger hate.  any other team could have beaten that offer and they chose not to do it.

why are the brewers ****ing around?  you havent won jack since 1982 and the best pitcher on the market is available and you cant beat that offer?

dont cry about dodger money when you dont even try to win.  this trade had nothing to do with money.

And now they’ll overpay for a lesser pitcher to compensate

[Tenacious D]

I expect Hope to report to Toledo, or at least move up there at some point this season.

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

So you're saying, in your opinion, he's a can't miss prospect? When a huge percent of prospects do miss...

Projecting prospects has become quite a bit better with new science and technology  but there is still a lot of uncertainty.  Fans tend to get overly optimistic about prospects.  

[Sports_Freak]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

Projecting prospects has become quite a bit better with new science and technology  but there is still a lot of uncertainty.  Fans tend to get overly optimistic about prospects.  

And teams talk up their prospects to use them in trades.

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

With the Brewers too, it comes down to having a track record of developing prospects. Take a little confidence in that and act accordingly. The fact that they didn't make the deal here says a lot.

I like their organization.  They are good model for the Tigers.  

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

The Brewers are a great organization with an average payroll.  They need to keep their best prospects to be a perennial contender.  Getting Skubal does not guarantee a championship and not getting him does not guarantee they lose it.  The idea that nobody can beat the Dodgers is way overblown.  The just barely won last year.  The Brewers can still beat them this year without Skubal.  

I didn't say they can't be beat, but they have won the last two World Series and have played in 5 of the last 9 because they can just go out and give $700 million to Ohtani, and sign Freeman, Betts and now Skubal. With Freeman and Betts aging, they can just sign/trade for their replacements. Teams like the Tigers have to execute perfectly on their drafting and developing or else they will be in perpetual rebuild like they were after they traded Verlander. 

[monkeytargets39]

I’d put Hope on the roster now and DFA Outman.