2026 Trade deadline

[lordstanley]

The Tigers had the 2nd best record in the American League for June 1-July 31, and they're tied with Boston, Houston and Seattle for the best AL record in August at 2-0.

[SoCalTiger]

It's not just about championships and flags flying  forever it's also about summers full of fun exciting baseball with the energy and excitement of making the post season. So if the offers for Mize and/or Gleybar are excellent then sure make the trade. If not keep them and enjoy the race for the post season for as long as it lasts. But don't just make any trade because we have a tiny chance of raising the flag while passing on the next two months of fun baseball. 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Graterol said:

Still hoping Mize and Torres get moved.

I read that River Ryan will be back at end of August. Jobe is probably ready this week. Is Ryan and/or Jobe a huge downgrade compared to Mize over a handful of starts?

Ditto for Gleyber compared to Anderson.

Both would be downgrades, but not meaningfully, so I would move if we can get an interesting return.

 

I'd like Jobe and that triple digit FB in the bullpen for the stretch run.

Edited August 3 by gehringer_2

[RedRamage]

7 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

It's not just about championships and flags flying  forever it's also about summers full of fun exciting baseball with the energy and excitement of making the post season. So if the offers for Mize and/or Gleybar are excellent then sure make the trade. If not keep them and enjoy the race for the post season for as long as it lasts. But don't just make any trade because we have a tiny chance of raising the flag while passing on the next two months of fun baseball. 

I think I mostly agree, though my bar is probably relatively low for what would be "excellent." Torres, in particular, I'd like to move for anything decent. If anyone offers a Top100 for Mize, I'd definitely sell.

 

[diaspora04]

9 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

I'd like to a "baseball" trade (like how they call it a "hockey" trade in the NHL) for Torres where we get a competent MLB reliever in return. I have no idea of the likelihood of a trade like that... probably 0-5%...

I'm just saying...

If we're still trying to get back in the race, Torres is superfluous (IMO) and I would love to get someone steady for the bullpen in return.

Anyways... we'll see what Harris comes up with before tomorrow 6PM.

The issue with Torres, I believe, is that only a contender would trade for him, and it is highly unlikely that any contender would part with even a barely serviceable BP pitcher at this point.  Arms are very dear.

[mtutiger]

8 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

It's not just about championships and flags flying  forever it's also about summers full of fun exciting baseball with the energy and excitement of making the post season. So if the offers for Mize and/or Gleybar are excellent then sure make the trade. If not keep them and enjoy the race for the post season for as long as it lasts. But don't just make any trade because we have a tiny chance of raising the flag while passing on the next two months of fun baseball. 

This is exactly right. Even that aside, it would be crazy for them to not use their position in the standings as a point of leverage to increase a potential return.

At the end of the day, they will at least get something back if he walks... they don't *need* to trade him, and they should negotiate accordingly

[monkeytargets39]

50 minutes ago, diaspora04 said:

The issue with Torres, I believe, is that only a contender would trade for him, and it is highly unlikely that any contender would part with even a barely serviceable BP pitcher at this point.  Arms are very dear.

I actually thought he made sense for the Dodgers to go with Skubal.  Might’ve been able to get us another arm that way

[TigerNation]

10 hours ago, SeattleMike said:

Since June 1, the Tigers have the 4th best wRC+ in the majors. They have somehow managed to pull this off with only three first division positional players. 

The irony of how much he over exaggerates how bad everything is at the ML level is that he said he thinks a complete scrub prospect like Southisene will be a good player. On fangraphs the guy is ranked 33rd in the Cubs organization, which is not great, has a future value of 35+, and he hasn't hit a single HR in over 700 PAs between A/A+. His ceiling is a guy who hangs around as a backup going up and down for a few years, but he said he thinks he'll be a good player. 

[JackMorrisStache]

Slightly frustrating that the White Sox —- the WHITE SOX —- are buyers at the trade deadline while the last 2 years we’ve sat on our hands (Charlie Morton & Finnegan aside). The Sux picked up a reliever from the Mets overnight. Sure would be nice to make a couple moves to fortify the pen and see what we can do with that “top record” since June in making a run to the postseason.

[LongLiveMaroth]

Toronto grabs Soriano (who is a FA in 29) for Nimmala and a couple of lottery tickets. Philly gets Luis Arraez and Caleb Kilian from the Giants for Ramon Marquez and Marty Gair.  

[LongLiveMaroth]

Philly also grabbing Brooks Raley 

[chasfh]

21 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I see that argument all the time and I think it's one of the weakest baseball arguments.  If Radbourne played today, he would have been a very different athete with all the modern benefits that players have today - advantaned training, healthcare, technology, etc.  I think any superstar from past eras would have succeeded today.  

If by this you mean if Old Hoss Radbourn were born in 1998 he would have been a very different athlete, then I completely agree, but that's only because Old Hoss Radbourn would also have been a completely different person, starting with different parentage. In that sense, every major league pitcher is Old Hoss Radbourn born today.

Now, if we're talking about transporting Old Hoss Radbourn in a time machine and then taking the time to train him up to current major league levels, with all the benefits of training and development made available to him, then that's a different and interesting discussion. How long would it take to train five-foot-nine-inch, 168-pound Old Hoss Radbourn to become a major league pitcher in 2026? I would say forever, because by the time he were to get to his peak level after having been trained to his max ability, he will have either still fallen far short of big league standards, or otherwise have aged out of the majors.

[chasfh]

20 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

LOL - 

Miguel was a fat guy that should not have been fat. Thome was just thick. I see the comparison to Puckett but to me Hope looks more like Bo Jackson than Puckett, he's got a running back's body. Funny thing is that I was the guy that thought Mike Trout (also thick build) might be prone to go fat when I first saw him. Trout's had terrible injury luck but not because he didn't control his weight.

Can you imagine what Miggy could have accomplished if he had taken the best care of himself that he possibly could have? Damn.

As it is, I'm pretty sure Miggy is pleased as possible with how things have gone for him and doesn't regret a thing.

[chasfh]

20 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

We just traded 2 months of control for 14 years of control. Let that sink in. 

Amazing deal for the Tigers. Now they need to move Torres and Mize. I hope they send Mize to the Rays for Hopkins and Xavier Isaac. 

Who do we have under control until 2040? 😕

[chasfh]

19 hours ago, Biff Mayhem said:

Yeah I’ve seen [Skubal's] awkward insurance commercial. He’s not an actor. 

Still better than Tork. That guy is basically a tree.

[chasfh]

18 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

Thumbs down: Sirota, as a RH, who is closer to the bigs, would have been better choice IMO, but Sirota and Hope are at same level and Hope is 1.5 years younger. Ryan of course is giving everyone F Perez vibes.

I'm pretty sure Sirota was not an option Harris passed on in favor of Zyhir.

[AlaskanTigersFan]

I don't want to get in a pissing match with people on this board. I feel like we all are a bit delusional. I get we all drink the Tigers Kool-AID. To put it in perspective as to why I think the Tigers lineup isn't that great, I will use baseball savant rankings for batting run value (BRV) where a 50 is league average. I am not accounting for Max Clark right now because my whole argument has been that up till this point, the Tigers lineup has been bad and he's played 3 games so he's excluded. I also am doing the same for Valencia because he's only played 11 games. (I acknowledge the lineup will be better with Clark in it and may be with Valencia, but time will tell).

Here's how the Tigers stack up:

C- Dillon Dingler - 92 BRV ***
1B - Spencer Torkelson - 41 BRV
2B - Gleyber Torres - 65 BRV 
SS - Kevin McGonnigle - 90
3B - Colt Keith - 34
LF - Riley Greene - 80
CF - Ben Malgeri - ~48 (not qualified yet)
RF - James Outman - (-14)

Bench
BN - Hao-Yu-Lee - ~40 (not qualified yet)
BN - Zach McKinstry - 13
BN - Javy Baez - ~40 (not qualified)

So I owe you an apology. We have four players above 50 (Dingler, Torres, McGonnigle, Greene) not three. So it's actually 55% of our lineup is not 1st division regulars up to this point, not 66%. So I apologize for that. I was a little dramatic being off by one, ya'll are right. My bad.  

Now having said that, looking at next year (which I feel we should be playing for), we add in Clark, see if Valencia is real, but add in Rainer (who should be ready), and Zhyir who should also be ready. Now you have at least seven of your nine spots who in theory should be better than league average. Not to mention any FA's you sign.  The Tigers lineup to this point has been sub par which has been my whole point.

The run differentials that people are talking about is valid, but you also have to see that we beat the crap out of bad teams (which I admit, you're supposed to do). We had six games vs the Athletics with a +37 run differential..... Take out those games and we are even....... 

I just feel like we should be focused on next year and do everything we can to support next year. Mize should get us value comparable to a comp A value pick, but the difference is we should be getting a guy in AA or AAA who should hopefully be able to help us next year, not three or four years from now if we draft him in July of 2027..... That's why I feel it's different then to just let him walk. Torres we should be able to get something decent as well. But Mize is the best starter on the market right now and I think we should capitalize on that. 

[chasfh]

18 hours ago, NorthWoods said:

This ranking seems a bit overexuberant.

https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/prospect-trade-hauls-all-time-rankings?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

Remember that Mayo works for MLB, so ownership is among his constituency. I'm pretty sure he always lacquers his criticisms with a generous amount of varnish.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

what is taking them so long to trade Mize......... Get it over with already. Lets see who we get!

Mize ain't going anywhere.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

I think it’s 50/50 he’s dealt. We had to trade Skubal, but that’s not the case with Mize.

We can keep him in the pursuit of the postseason and offer him the QO, which he might take. And if he doesn’t, we get another high pick and the increased pool $.

I hope Harris holds him unless he’s overwhelmed.

Also, it's fairly probably that the return we would get on an oft-injured just-short-of-proven front-of-the-rotation guy is basically the same as a sandwich comp pick, so we might as well get the best of Casey for the rest of this season in pursuit of our playoff appearance.

[Tiger337]

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

If by this you mean if Old Hoss Radbourn were born in 1998 he would have been a very different athlete, then I completely agree, but that's only because Old Hoss Radbourn would also have been a completely different person, starting with different parentage. In that sense, every major league pitcher is Old Hoss Radbourn born today.

Now, if we're talking about transporting Old Hoss Radbourn in a time machine and then taking the time to train him up to current major league levels, with all the benefits of training and development made available to him, then that's a different and interesting discussion. How long would it take to train five-foot-nine-inch, 168-pound Old Hoss Radbourn to become a major league pitcher in 2026? I would say forever, because by the time he were to get to his peak level after having been trained to his max ability, he will have either still fallen far short of big league standards, or otherwise have aged out of the majors.

I am more interested in the case of Old Hoss Radbourne being born in 1998.  If he were born in 1998, he would probably be a lot taller than 5-9.  I think it's fairly obvious that athletes are better now than they were over 100 years ago.  It's true and mostly accepted in every other sport and baseball is no different.  What I am interested in doing is ranking players throughout history.  If I want to compare Milt Cuyler to Ty Cobb, I am not going to put Cobb in a time machine and figure out if he'd be as good as Cuyler.  I am going to compare players against their own era.  

 

[chasfh]

16 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

No reason to keep Mize at all. I Guarantee you we can get more than a comp pick value for him. Move him, move Torres and then anyone else we possibly can........

You also guaranteed us with could get Sirota and/or De Paula, so ... 😉 

[AlaskanTigersFan]

Just now, chasfh said:

You also guaranteed us with could get Sirota and/or De Paula, so ... 😉 

You have to admit, I came close though! Nailed River Ryan and Brady Smith 🙂 

Zyhir also isn't too shabby I don't think. I would have preferred Quintero myself but meh... 

[Tiger337]

52 minutes ago, JackMorrisStache said:

Slightly frustrating that the White Sox —- the WHITE SOX —- are buyers at the trade deadline while the last 2 years we’ve sat on our hands (Charlie Morton & Finnegan aside). The Sux picked up a reliever from the Mets overnight. Sure would be nice to make a couple moves to fortify the pen and see what we can do with that “top record” since June in making a run to the postseason.

I would not be surprised to see the Tigers buy a reliever or two today.  I am not usually in favor of buying relievers, but given their current bullpen it would be hard to do worse.  

[chasfh]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

I am more interested in the case of Old Hoss Radbourne being born in 1998.  If he were born in 1998, he would probably be a lot taller than 5-9.  I think it's fairly obvious that athletes are better now than they were over 100 years ago.  It's true and mostly accepted in every other sport and baseball is no different.  What I am interested in doing is ranking players throughout history.  If I want to compare Milt Cuyler to Ty Cobb, I am not going to put Cobb in a time machine and figure out if he'd be as good as Cuyler.  I am going to compare players against their own era.  

 

If Old Hoss Radbourn were born in 1998, he would not be Old Hoss Radbourn. He would be somebody else.

If what you mean is a guy with Old Hoss Radbourn's natural talents who was born to be 5'9" and 168 pounds, that's something different, and somewhat more possible in my opinion. Personally, I think that would be a tall order to make him as good as Old Hoss Radbourn was, for lots of reasons.