2026 Trade deadline

[casimir]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

It would not shock me if he has peaked and will start to fall back to Earth a bit.  I don’t see his leg kick mechanics aging well.  Plus in LA, he isn’t going to be THE guy, and he always seemed to feed off of that with us…so I can see him having some difficulty adjusting to just being “another member of the rotation” for LA.  They aren’t going to embrace him like they do with Ohtani.

I wonder about his health.  He’s a pitcher, he’s had issues previously.  And what’s the saying about pitchers, they’ve either been injured or are going to be injured?

I don’t know about his makeup and adjusting to be just another SP.  I suspect he’ll be fine with that, but I don’t know for sure one way or another.

[Tigermojo]

9 minutes ago, casimir said:

I think I can understand both trades that were made and not be upset with the players brought back.  It sucks to see Skubal go, but such is the state of things.  One thing that I heard that sticks in my mind is are we getting to a point closer than we think where the name of Skubal is going to have more value than the performance of Skubal?

I am disappointed that they couldn’t move Torres.  I suspect they tried and there just wasn’t a market?  Or perhaps there was too much requested for a return?  Something might leak about it, but who knows if it will be true.

I am disappointed that they couldn’t address the bullpen.  A better bullpen would have made up for the loss in the rotation a bit, but probably not enough to offset the loss of Skubal and Mize.  I suppose the market for controllable RP was too much.

Torres has missed half their games this year. Just too unreliable health wise to trade for I think.

[casimir]

4 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

 

So hang on to win one of those losses vs Kansas City and then figure out a way to hold a 7 run lead vs Baltimore and the trade deadline might be different?

[casimir]

1 minute ago, Tigermojo said:

Torres has missed half their games this year. Just too unreliable health wise to trade for I think.

Yeah, maybe.  But I’m not trading for him, I’m looking to trade him away. Hey, this Torres is ok in my lineup, but, wow, drop him in yours and, you would get an “S” grade.

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, casimir said:

So hang on to win one of those losses vs Kansas City and then figure out a way to hold a 7 run lead vs Baltimore and the trade deadline might be different?

There's a whole boatload of games this season that could have went a different way that maybe prevents this outcome. Even got to see one live (the one where Kerry hit a grand slam and they still managed to lose).

They were in a really tough spot this deadline, perhaps tougher than any other team. Wish they would have played better and nailed some games down earlier in the season

Edited August 4 by mtutiger

[SeattleMike]

7 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

 

So if Finnegan manages to retire Jackson (I think it was him), who fouled off like 6 pitches, he probably wouldn't have traded anyone? Not sure I believe that, but who knew how pivotal that one at bat was. 

[Hart]

I had MLB network on in the background all day and I kept hearing how teams were searching for a quality right handed bat.  Seems like we missed an opportunity with Gleyber.  

[mtutiger]

59 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

So if Finnegan manages to retire Jackson (I think it was him), who fouled off like 6 pitches, he probably wouldn't have traded anyone? Not sure I believe that, but who knew how pivotal that one at bat was. 

The Tigers case for buying or selling was on a knifes edge. And they had two series coming off the Angels Cubs series against mediocre teams (Royals, Orioles) and, frankly, underperformed.

I'm not sure I fall completely on the side that he landed, but it's not hard to understand at all

Edited August 4 by mtutiger

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, papalawrence said:

Mize has a better era and fip than Skubal this year. Still confused and hungry, but some wings and a Greek salad are on the way

Casual observation over time could suggest that Casey was never Hinch’s favorite player and also that that Hinch was not Casey’s favorite manager.  Did that make a difference? Who knows?

Edited August 4 by gehringer_2

[oblong]

The point I made to someone is, imagine they keep that lead against BAL but lose the first game in Sacramento. Psychologically it’s different but it’s still 1-1 over two games. 

[SeattleMike]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Casual observation over time could suggest that Casey was never Hinch’s favorite player and also that that Hinch was not Casey’s favorite manager.  Did that make a difference? Who knows?

Leaving him off the playoff roster one year, quibbling over a few 100K during arbitration, not reactivating him in 2024 immediately and instead leaving him in Toledo for about a month. It adds up. 

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, oblong said:

The point I made to someone is, imagine they keep that lead against BAL but lose the first game in Sacramento. Psychologically it’s different but it’s still 1-1 over two games. 

Really even had they won one of the two games they blew against the Royals in the prior series as well.

That ultimately is what made the Baltimore series feel like a playoff series

Edited August 4 by mtutiger

[kdog]

 

[NorthWoods]

45 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

Leaving him off the playoff roster one year, quibbling over a few 100K during arbitration, not reactivating him in 2024 immediately and instead leaving him in Toledo for about a month. It adds up. 

True enough.  And none of us know how much of a challenge he was to deal with.   

Im not sure that he was but the signs were there

[CMRivdogs]

Not Tiger related (any more) but I did find it a bit amusing to see Jake Rodgers included in the Rutchman deal. He barely had time to unpack in Baltimore. 

[Shelton]

1 hour ago, SeattleMike said:

So if Finnegan manages to retire Jackson (I think it was him), who fouled off like 6 pitches, he probably wouldn't have traded anyone? Not sure I believe that, but who knew how pivotal that one at bat was. 

I don’t believe it either. But let’s be clear it was Tarik that could not pitch 7 IP and AJ that let him stay him. 

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

 

 

Occam's razor there.

[papalawrence]

The trades were ok. A sense of ushering in a new era, led by McGonigle, Clark,....?  Even the 2024 team seems bygone now. Not building on that team. Keeping its spare parts and starting something new. Sort of like mtv on 8/1/'81. Video killed the radio star. 

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I was saying the front office might believe the latter, but I posted that before the Mize trade. Heck, they might still think they have a good shot at it. We still have a solid rotation, the bats have really picked up,m and we have the weakest schedule of just about anyone left.

And while I am at it, **** Jack Flaherty for posting that ****. He's definitely not part of the future, anyway. And if he wants to get paid by some second-division team this winter, he better not let his fee-fees **** up his performance when does come back.

Yup...F Jack. If he hadn't pitched like a washed-up has-been the first few months of the season, we would be much closer to 1st place and Skubal and Mize dont get moved. So the Tigers being sellers are a huge partial fault of Jack Flaherty. F him.

[Tiger337]

Harris talked to Skubal once about a contract?  I don't know much about contract negotiations, but shouldn't there have been a followup at some point?   I'm just curious.   I didn't want him signed to a ridiculous long term deal.  

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, papalawrence said:

The trades were ok. A sense of ushering in a new era, led by McGonigle, Clark,....?  Even the 2024 team seems bygone now. Not building on that team. Keeping its spare parts and starting something new. Sort of like mtv on 8/1/'81. Video killed the radio star. 

The Tigers are building something very special. Great teams, not good teams but great teams, are build with great players up the middle. Clark, Kevin, Dingler and Lee are an excellent foundation to building a championship caliber team. Seriously...losing Skubal and Mize hurts this season but the return was much better (possibly) than the draft picks we may have gotten. It very well may he that we've seen the last of the Tigers being sellers at the deadline for several years. Or longer...the future in Detroit is bright.

[Sports_Freak]

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Harris talked to Skubal once about a contract?  I don't know much about contract negotiations, but shouldn't there have been a followup at some point?   I'm just curious.   I didn't want him signed to a ridiculous long term deal.  

If Skubal said he wanted to set the market for all future pitchers and the asking price was an extension of $400m for 10 years? Not much more to say except...good luck in your future.

[papalawrence]

3 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Tigers are building something very special. Great teams, not good teams but great teams, are build with great players up the middle. Clark, Kevin, Dingler and Lee are an excellent foundation to building a championship caliber team. Seriously...losing Skubal and Mize hurts this season but the return was much better (possibly) than the draft picks we may have gotten. It very well may he that we've seen the last of the Tigers being sellers at the deadline for several years. Or longer...the future in Detroit is bright.

Yesterday the Tigers started 5 rookies and beat the As 11-0. It is bright. I'm starting to turn the page.

[SeattleMike]

6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

The Tigers are building something very special. Great teams, not good teams but great teams, are build with great players up the middle. Clark, Kevin, Dingler and Lee are an excellent foundation to building a championship caliber team. Seriously...losing Skubal and Mize hurts this season but the return was much better (possibly) than the draft picks we may have gotten. It very well may he that we've seen the last of the Tigers being sellers at the deadline for several years. Or longer...the future in Detroit is bright.

Wonder if the Tigers sign Clark to an extension. 

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

If Skubal said he wanted to set the market for all future pitchers and the asking price was an extension of $400m for 10 years? Not much more to say except...good luck in your future.

Were you at the meeting?  Just curious.  😀