4/14 8:10 Tigers @ Royals

[casimir]

8 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Leyland probably said to him 12 years ago: "Look, young man, you go out there and get 3,000 hits and 500 home runs and you can stick  whatever you want in your ears. Until then, what I say goes, and I say no earrings on the field".

Leyland offered to have his own ears pierced if Cabrera won another triple crown, but alas, it was not to be.

[casimir]

10 hours ago, JackPine said:

Does anyone simulcast a radio broadcast onto TV? I think I'd rather have that than listen to the TV broadcast on the radio

John Sterling sometimes simulcasts an alternative reality onto his TV broadcasts, but I don't think that's exactly what you are looking for.

[1776]

9 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Where would this team be without Austin Meadows...............it's frightening to think.     How's Isaac doing?  Probably not this well 

Don’t know what Isaac did last night but Wednesday night he recorded a double and a home run at AAA Durham. This trade may work out well for both clubs, hope so.

[Tigeraholic1]

2 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Don’t know what Isaac did last night but Wednesday night he recorded a double and a home run at AAA Durham. This trade may work out well for both clubs, hope so.

It's nice when things work out like that. 

[Jim Cowan]

2 hours ago, casimir said:

Hmmmm....

So, we all realize that RPs can have their ratios, at least the traditional ones like ERA & WHIP, dinged up pretty good by a rough outing.  SPs have the QS and QS% stats (which admittedly are not perfect if the floor is a 4.50 ERA).  The question for the room is do RPs have a similar stat?  I suppose BSs is somewhat in the realm of that, but I guess I'm thinking about something more based along the lines of something ERA or WHIP based with an IP qualifier.  Something along the lines of a quality relief appearance being at least an inning with an ERA of no more than 4.50 or something like that?

Tider337 is a proponent of the "clean outing" in which your inherited runners do not score, and none of your own batters score either.  The inherited runners thing is huge.  There was a guy here, Zach Miner, who would come in and give up a 2 run double and then settle down and keep his own ERA nice and low.  Shane Greene's greatest value, I always thought, was before he was the "closer".  He was the high leverage guy who could come in with runners on and put out a fire.

[casimir]

21 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Tider337 is a proponent of the "clean outing" in which your inherited runners do not score, and none of your own batters score either.  The inherited runners thing is huge.  There was a guy here, Zach Miner, who would come in and give up a 2 run double and then settle down and keep his own ERA nice and low.  Shane Greene's greatest value, I always thought, was before he was the "closer".  He was the high leverage guy who could come in with runners on and put out a fire.

Inherited runners can be a bit misleading.  Inheriting a runner on 3rd with 0 outs is different than inheriting a runner on 1st with 2 outs.

Now that you mention Lee, I seem to recall seeing some sort of stat that attributes partial runs to RPs if a runner on base scores.  Something like if there is a runner on 3rd and there is a pitching change, the runner scores, the P that allowed the runner to 3rd gets 3/4 ER and the RP gets 1/4 ER.  Perhaps that was in Lee's book?  I can't remember.

[mtutiger]

Two games in a row where the Tigers opponent was spotted over 1 additional run on these metrics.