Coronavirus: Already In a Neighborhood Near You

[pfife]

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[Edman85]

6 hours ago, guy incognito said:

In fairness to Devoid, as somebody who had COVID 2-3 weeks ago, I can confirm the current strains are the common cold, and not nearly as contageious.

[gehringer_2]

29 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

In fairness to Devoid, as somebody who had COVID 2-3 weeks ago, I can confirm the current strains are the common cold, and not nearly as contageious.

It is probably true that many strains of the 'common cold' started out life at some point in history as "Covids", though that wouldn't include any of the rhino-virii, which are the other type of common cold and are unrelated to corona-virii

[Sports_Freak]

15 hours ago, ewsieg said:

Some of this diary stuff does tarnish Fauci a bit.  Pretty clear he loved the attention, didn't want people to even discuss it being a lab leak, despite getting differing opinions from his own peers, and once things got political, he was willing to go along with what the science wasn't showing in order to keep a narrative in place (sounds like he knew about asymptomatic exposure, that masks weren't as effective as initially thought) . 

As for Fauci taking the 5th but already having immunity (or pardon, may not be using the correct legal term for his situation), but whatever it is, that's for Federal.  Some GOP nut can argue that he's out of Trumps legal reach, but it just takes Trump to make one phone call to one (or more) of this MAGA State AG's.  As such, I think he's on good legal ground to plead the 5th.  That said, I do want more answers.  In hindsight there was a lot that wasn't done well.  Shouldn't mean that Fauci was criminal in his actions though.   Doesn't even mean he did a bad job, it truly was one of the most unique situations our country has faced.

In the end, no change in our normal political ways.  Dems want to make him a hero that saved us all, GOP wants to make him a villain that screwed us all.  In the end I suspect it'll come out that he was highly competent, that may have errored on the side of caution and may not have followed the science in situations where Dems felt giving some updated info may lead to idiots on the right to say "see, told you he has no idea what he's talking about."

The pardon doesn't cover any lies he told to Congress. He's pleading the 5th because these MAGA morons will take his words and use them in any court actions the Big Cheeto decides to have his political DOJ make up against him. They're looking for a "gotcha" statement. The best thing that can be done? Uhhh....release the Epstein Files.

[romad1]

 

[Tigerbomb13]

This is the grossest take I’ve seen yet, but I wouldn’t expect less than from the pro-pedophile party. 

[chasfh]

**** that Kremlin horse****.  

[pfife]

I remember OMF loved that Victor Davis Hanson dude

[chasfh]

There is zero way that guy is not all over not only Trump, but also Miller, Vought, Carr, Homan, and all the rest of them.

[romad1]

The Dana Bash/ RFKjr confrontation was scary because that guy has power over so many medical things. 

[Edman85]

More 20 minute interviews with RFK please... It just seems like him talking hurts, and he deserves pain.

Edited August 2 by Edman85

[oblong]

On 7/31/2026 at 3:13 PM, pfife said:

I remember OMF loved that Victor Davis Hanson dude

He was huge in the National Review online presence.  Seems like half those people converted to the cult while others like Jonah Goldberg and Jay Nordlinger see it for what it is while hanging on to their beliefs pre 2016. 

[romad1]

I wonder if we get a covid vaccine this year.  If this idiot wants to roll the dice some more. 

 

[pfife]

Smfh gas powered ****in stupid.   

[ewsieg]

18 hours ago, oblong said:

He was huge in the National Review online presence.  Seems like half those people converted to the cult while others like Jonah Goldberg and Jay Nordlinger see it for what it is while hanging on to their beliefs pre 2016. 

At least by his name I don't remember him specifically, but I was a National Review reader many moons ago.  I just listened to a podcast that ridiculed Megyn Kelly over these comments.  As with all hot button issues, both sides are still trying to frame Covid as something they were right about and the other side was wrong about.  

The issue really comes down to how did the Government balance the needs of its people.  If you believe the only role they should have had is to protect as many lives as possible, then the long lockdowns, kids and workers at home, masks on the beach requirements were worth it right to the end.  Now that we're well past it and we can see the affects Covid and our governments actions on people and we're seeing how much education was impacted, how many mental health issues picked up, especially in our kids who in hindsight were not in danger and some of our more poorer communities.  So with blinders on, it's easy to criticize and say that the government over reached and harmed children.  Just like with blinders on you can say dems were great because they followed Fauci and he's a hero.  In the end, a more balanced approach probably would have been better, but make no mistake, there was no good path through it.  You had to weigh deaths of one group against the mental health of another group during a moment where mental health can affect the rest of your life.  

[Screwball]

33 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

At least by his name I don't remember him specifically, but I was a National Review reader many moons ago.  I just listened to a podcast that ridiculed Megyn Kelly over these comments.  As with all hot button issues, both sides are still trying to frame Covid as something they were right about and the other side was wrong about.  

The issue really comes down to how did the Government balance the needs of its people.  If you believe the only role they should have had is to protect as many lives as possible, then the long lockdowns, kids and workers at home, masks on the beach requirements were worth it right to the end.  Now that we're well past it and we can see the affects Covid and our governments actions on people and we're seeing how much education was impacted, how many mental health issues picked up, especially in our kids who in hindsight were not in danger and some of our more poorer communities.  So with blinders on, it's easy to criticize and say that the government over reached and harmed children.  Just like with blinders on you can say dems were great because they followed Fauci and he's a hero.  In the end, a more balanced approach probably would have been better, but make no mistake, there was no good path through it.  You had to weigh deaths of one group against the mental health of another group during a moment where mental health can affect the rest of your life.  

I was most amused during that time of the people who wished other people dead.

[oblong]

Too many people didn’t have spouses or families working in ICU’s and therefore were ignorant of the real toll. Or were just indifferent to the suffering of others if it meant they could go get a haircut.  I will not budge an inch on any of it and **** those people who think we overreacted 

[ewsieg]

15 minutes ago, oblong said:

Too many people didn’t have spouses or families working in ICU’s and therefore were ignorant of the real toll. Or were just indifferent to the suffering of others if it meant they could go get a haircut.  I will not budge an inch on any of it and **** those people who think we overreacted 

No offense, but this kind of points to my thing.  It was real bad and folks on the right need to remember that.  But there was also anxiety about paying bills, supporting family, caring for family, and some of that lasted a really long time and took a huge toll on people and especially kids.  I had an outgoing little girl that thought it was fun to stay home with mom and dad and "work" from home just like us, but that got old quick and by the time she got back to school she was withdrawn, eventually lost all of her friends, and is just now building up some new friendships.  My son loved school, was in honor classes and freaked out the 2-3 times he brought up a B.  We barely got him to graduate.  Obviously kids in high school and elementary/middle school go through changes with or without Covid, but you will never convince me or my wife that our families decision to strictly adhere to Covid rules for the sake of my wife's health hurt their mental health.  And if you ask my wife, in hindsight, she wishes we weren't as strict for their sake.   They both are in much better places now, but it sucked for awhile.  Granted it wasn't all Covid.... well, I guess you can argue it was Covid with my wife too as she was vaccine injured with the Covid + Flu shot which led my wife's health to drastically deteriorate and that put more stress on the kids too.   

In the end, there is some valid criticism of Fauci as his only job was to report the facts to policy makers, not be the policy maker.  But at the same time, someone blind to how crazy it was and just screaming at Fauci over his contradictory mask policy is asinine.

[Motown Bombers]

I wonder what kind of toll it would be on children if their parents died of COVID?

[oblong]

1 hour ago, ewsieg said:

No offense, but this kind of points to my thing.  It was real bad and folks on the right need to remember that.  But there was also anxiety about paying bills, supporting family, caring for family, and some of that lasted a really long time and took a huge toll on people and especially kids.  I had an outgoing little girl that thought it was fun to stay home with mom and dad and "work" from home just like us, but that got old quick and by the time she got back to school she was withdrawn, eventually lost all of her friends, and is just now building up some new friendships.  My son loved school, was in honor classes and freaked out the 2-3 times he brought up a B.  We barely got him to graduate.  Obviously kids in high school and elementary/middle school go through changes with or without Covid, but you will never convince me or my wife that our families decision to strictly adhere to Covid rules for the sake of my wife's health hurt their mental health.  And if you ask my wife, in hindsight, she wishes we weren't as strict for their sake.   They both are in much better places now, but it sucked for awhile.  Granted it wasn't all Covid.... well, I guess you can argue it was Covid with my wife too as she was vaccine injured with the Covid + Flu shot which led my wife's health to drastically deteriorate and that put more stress on the kids too.   

In the end, there is some valid criticism of Fauci as his only job was to report the facts to policy makers, not be the policy maker.  But at the same time, someone blind to how crazy it was and just screaming at Fauci over his contradictory mask policy is asinine.

And no offense but you just proved my point.  People were willing to sacrifice other peoples lives over their own inconveniences. Yes adhering to rules sucked. I went thru it. I worked from home while having a non verbal deaf special needs son try to do remote schooling thru a laptop. That’s not easy. I was angry when they didn’t go back in the fall of 2020 but it’s a campus with dorms and they didn’t know or have the ability to deal with it. My oldest went thru things his first year in college and after and it probably cost me $20K. Not to mention the mental strain my wife faced with seeing people die every day at work…. But the goal was minimizing deaths and if that’s my own sacrifice then so be it. Maybe more people got to live.  Their lives are worth more than my inconveniences at the time.  

[Tiger337]

Wasn't the main goal to keep people out of hospitals, so that there would not be an even worse public health crisis?  

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

I wonder what kind of toll it would be on children if their parents died of COVID?

yeah, this is the thing. It's easy to say keep the kids in school because they were not at serious risk, but how many of those kids came home to grandparents or even parents with the kinds of co-mobidities that put them at critical risk? I don't have any issue at all with the initial responses. Once we had the vaccine maybe things probably could have relaxed faster, but even there - too many people too ignorant to get vaxxed - were we going to sentence them to death for it because the US educational and media systems failed them?

[Edman85]

Do we know for sure children were vectors? I thought some of the stuff that has come out since has shown they  really weren't, but that is admittedly vague and with the benefit of hindsight.

[ewsieg]

9 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Wasn't the main goal to keep people out of hospitals, so that there would not be an even worse public health crisis?  

This was my understanding as well.  Then it flipped to you have to do whatever the government tells you too and if you don't, you're a selfish prick people you care more about your freedoms than some persons life.  So if you don't like flock cameras, STFU you selfish prick.  You don't like data centers which could do wonders to help medical research, STFU you selfish prick.  You are good with 65-75mph on the freeway, you selfish prick, demand much lower speed limits.   This may sound ridiculous, but remember there was a time where people couldn't go to the beach and those fighting to go to the beach (even with 6 foot spacing and masks) were labeled crazy MAGAs that cared more about chilling at the beach than a local 90 year old.

People are still dying from Covid today, so why isn't the DNC, which cares about people, not demanding we lock downs again?  

[Tiger337]

6 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

This was my understanding as well.  Then it flipped to you have to do whatever the government tells you too and if you don't, you're a selfish prick people you care more about your freedoms than some persons life.  So if you don't like flock cameras, STFU you selfish prick.  You don't like data centers which could do wonders to help medical research, STFU you selfish prick.  You are good with 65-75mph on the freeway, you selfish prick, demand much lower speed limits.   This may sound ridiculous, but remember there was a time where people couldn't go to the beach and those fighting to go to the beach (even with 6 foot spacing and masks) were labeled crazy MAGAs that cared more about chilling at the beach than a local 90 year old.

People are still dying from Covid today, so why isn't the DNC, which cares about people, not demanding we lock downs again?  

I agree there was an overreaction, but the opposite extreme was worse and they still haven't let go of the conspiracy theories.