oblong Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 So... no adoption? What about all those Baptists that adopt babies from Africa and China and Korea? I know quite a few from my school who did that. They don't count? Or is it spelled out that only gay adoptions don't matter? I don't want to know the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, oblong said: So... no adoption? What about all those Baptists that adopt babies from Africa and China and Korea? I know quite a few from my school who did that. They don't count? Or is it spelled out that only gay adoptions don't matter? I don't want to know the answer to that. Side note. I know a number of families who adopted from Africa, Korea and Philippines. Talking to them they said generally its easier to adopt from overseas than from the U.S. I find that very sad. Gay or straight everyone needs a family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Listened briefly to my wife and her college girlfriends dispersed around the country on their zoom call last night. The one who is a teacher in Florida was practically crying about how bad the governor has been. BTW, when I look at Desantis I see Dukakis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, romad1 said: Listened briefly to my wife and her college girlfriends dispersed around the country on their zoom call last night. The one who is a teacher in Florida was practically crying about how bad the governor has been. BTW, when I look at Desantis I see Dukakis. He's short, got a funny head of hair.... and an annoying voice. you nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 And Desantis looks just as ridiculous in those Air Force ads as Dukakis did in that tank. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Yeah… like this won’t prompt more husbands from blowing the heads off wives threatening to leave a marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Drudge is hammering away at Matt Schlapp with headline "Inside Gaylord: CPAC Schlapp dodges groping question..." Ya see Matt Drudge who happens to be gay (so one presumes a bit of insulation for being bitchy) and he is using the name of the hotel where CPAC circus is being held which is the Gaylord Hotel. Drudge's turn on the Trumpies has been interesting. Closer to Andrew Breitbart's vision than the vile Bannon Leninism. Breitbart hated bullies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, smr-nj said: Yeah… like this won’t prompt more husbands from blowing the heads off wives threatening to leave a marriage. Won't they just decriminalize that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: Drudge is hammering away at Matt Schlapp with headline "Inside Gaylord: CPAC Schlapp dodges groping question..." Ya see Matt Drudge who happens to be gay (so one presumes a bit of insulation for being bitchy) and he is using the name of the hotel where CPAC circus is being held which is the Gaylord Hotel. Drudge's turn on the Trumpies has been interesting. Closer to Andrew Breitbart's vision than the vile Bannon Leninism. Breitbart hated bullies. wow, until you said that I forgot all about Andrew Brietbart. I wonder where he would have fit in with all of this. Would he have gone the Jonah Goldberg, Jay Nordlinger route? Or full MAGA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: And Desantis looks just as ridiculous in those Air Force ads as Dukakis did in that tank. https://www.dailynews.com/2023/03/02/california-republicans-give-a-boost-to-florida-gov-ron-desantis-presidential-prospects/ Apparently he is up big in some states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Inflation so good so far! https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/economy/yellen-inflation-debt-ceiling-ukraine/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, romad1 said: Won't they just decriminalize that? How scary is it that your comment can’t be summarily dismissed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 35 minutes ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: https://www.dailynews.com/2023/03/02/california-republicans-give-a-boost-to-florida-gov-ron-desantis-presidential-prospects/ Apparently he is up big in some states. Trump is still destroying him and hasn't even brought his best insult game yet: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ What does DeSantis bring that Trump doesn't bring? He's basically the boring version of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Trump is still destroying him and hasn't even brought his best insult game yet: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ What does DeSantis bring that Trump doesn't bring? He's basically the boring version of Trump. All DeSantis is going to do is split off the vote from Trump. He's going to get the people who want the Trumpism without the Trump, and Trump is going to keep the people who want the Trump. The thing to remember is that they are never going to expand that base. All the people who want fascism are already in. No one who doesn't want fascism now is going to want fascism in a year and a half. Since they can't win a free and fair election, I believe the only way they can get people in line is to steal the election and then use force to impose minority fascist rule on the majority. Otherwise, how else do they win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, oblong said: wow, until you said that I forgot all about Andrew Brietbart. I wonder where he would have fit in with all of this. Would he have gone the Jonah Goldberg, Jay Nordlinger route? Or full MAGA? Breitbart I'd hope would break with the nutters. I had seen some essayists who purported to know his thinking on Trump. this was in the wikipedia page for Breitbart Quote In 2011, Breitbart said that "of course" Donald Trump was not a conservative, adding: But this is a message to those candidates who are languishing at 2 percent and 3 percent within the Republican Party who are brand names in Washington, but the rest of the country don't know ... celebrity is everything in this country. And if these guys don't learn how to play the media the way that Barack Obama played the media last election cycle and the way that Donald Trump is playing the election cycle, we're going to probably get a celebrity candidate.[41] These comments resurfaced after the controversy of Donald Trump hiring Breitbart News' executive chairman Steve Bannon to be his White House Chief Strategist.[41] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, smr-nj said: How scary is it that your comment can’t be summarily dismissed . No kidding. These people have way more power than they would if this were a functioning democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, chasfh said: All DeSantis is going to do is split off the vote from Trump. He's going to get the people who want the Trumpism without the Trump, and Trump is going to keep the people who want the Trump. The thing to remember is that they are never going to expand that base. All the people who want fascism are already in. No one who doesn't want fascism now is going to want fascism in a year and a half. Since they can't win a free and fair election, I believe the only way they can get people in line is to steal the election and then use force to impose minority fascist rule on the majority. Otherwise, how else do they win? based on social media postings I am not sure. They think he's a globalist and establishment. Sure most of them will go. But Trump's support was razor thin anyway so peeling off just a handful is all it takes to doom the GOP. It'll be Romney in 2012 and McCain in 2008. They didn't attract enough. The difference for Trump is he brought them on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, oblong said: based on social media postings I am not sure. They think he's a globalist and establishment. Sure most of them will go. But Trump's support was razor thin anyway so peeling off just a handful is all it takes to doom the GOP. It'll be Romney in 2012 and McCain in 2008. They didn't attract enough. The difference for Trump is he brought them on board. I tend to think that because that whole fascist right wing makes so much noise, with an entire high-profile media ecosystem at their disposal, and because they hold entire states in their thrall, people believe they have bigger support than they likely have in actuality. But there's no way they have the support of 50% of Americans. They probably don't have even 40%. What they have is a system originally tilted to slave-holding states that they still benefit from that makes things electorally close. But yeah, they have for all practical purposes maxed out that base. For every voter they can convert from Biden to Trump/DeSantis, five or ten voters will come back the other way after they wake up from their stupor and come to their senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: Trump is still destroying him and hasn't even brought his best insult game yet: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ What does DeSantis bring that Trump doesn't bring? He's basically the boring version of Trump. National polls mean very little. Iowa, NH, and SC mean more. Primaries are about momentum, whoever wins the early states will win. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/iowa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: What did the woke agenda do to his hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiger337 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, digitalpigsmuggler said: National polls mean very little. Iowa, NH, and SC mean more. Primaries are about momentum, whoever wins the early states will win. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/iowa/ Wait until Trump destroys your boy in the debates with insults and one liners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I'm not convinced slump is going to debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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