1984Echoes Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: is ever thus. It appears that the street fighting favors Ukraine but the Russians have ways of making streets into rubble. As long as Severodonetsk is not encircled, Ukraine will still be able to hold onto, resupply, and fight back there. It won't be the same as Mariupol (as long as Ukraine holds the Donetsk River) even if the Russians flatten it. Which I think they've already basically done. The Russians can't seem to get across any contested river without Ukraine completely demolishing their multiple attempt(s), so, that may be as far as Russia can go in the Donbas... halfway into Severodonetsk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 well now Very cool if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Ballsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 6/5/2022 at 10:15 AM, 1984Echoes said: As long as Severodonetsk is not encircled, Ukraine will still be able to hold onto, resupply, and fight back there. It won't be the same as Mariupol (as long as Ukraine holds the Donetsk River) even if the Russians flatten it. Which I think they've already basically done. The Russians can't seem to get across any contested river without Ukraine completely demolishing their multiple attempt(s), so, that may be as far as Russia can go in the Donbas... halfway into Severodonetsk. more rumbling on twitter of Russian forces losing steam, over extended again, but who knows? Should be an interesting few days coming up. One sign I take as a good one is Putin and Lavrov sabre rattling again. You don't need to bother making more public threats when things are going well -- battlefield success speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 So I listened to the last "War on the Rocks" podcast today and they touched on how the Russian military reforms that Putin initiated under Serduykov went south after only 4 yrs when Serduykov was caught in a corruption case (they implied it was a set-up to get rid of him) and it makes me wonder if Putin is/was just going soft in the head and he obliged when his oligarch buddies asked him to call off the dogs, or if his position was actually at that much risk from the blow-back from military reform that he had to pull the plug less than voluntarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 amused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 lots of smoke to this fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, romad1 said: lots of smoke to this fire Poor Pyotrs pushed to purloin Potty Putin's potties. Pointless? Edited June 9, 2022 by gehringer_2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, romad1 said: lots of smoke to this fire I wouldn’t doubt that many world leaders do the same thing. Edited June 10, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Interesting times to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I guess Putin is going to kill Navalny to make himself feel better about failing in Ukraine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hard right wingers around the world are taking notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: Hard right wingers around the world are taking notes. He's already dripping in enough blood to burn forever. What's one more Russian to Vladdie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, romad1 said: He's already dripping in enough blood to burn forever. What's one more dead Russian to Vladdie? FTFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The weapons supply to Ukraine absolutely needs to pick up the pace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: The weapons supply to Ukraine absolutely needs to pick up the pace... apparently the Russians were using a valuable, crane equipped ocean vessel to resupply Snake island and the Ukranians sunk it today - 2 anti-ship missiles Edited June 17, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: apparently the Russians were using a valuable, crane equipped ocean vessel to resupply Snake island and the Ukranians sunk it today - 2 anti-ship missiles Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 I do wonder how much of this rosy news we can trust, through the fog of constantly shifting disinformation efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, chasfh said: I do wonder how much of this rosy news we can trust, through the fog of constantly shifting disinformation efforts. What we know: Ukraine survived a brutal firsts few months Russia has decided to ramp up brutalization efforts but do so in a focused way. Basically to concentrate on areas within the range of their artillery. Ukraine has been dealing with massive casualties of its own as it fights these brutalization efforts. Its not all sunshine for them. Both sides are dealing with morale issues because of these casualties. The heady days of March and April have slipped away as this becomes a slog. Lots of Western volunteers came in March/April. Not all of them are staying. Lots of adrenaline junkies in the World but certain death has limited appeal. Ukraine may have chased the Russians away from Kyiv but they have limited capability to force the Russians out of places elsewhere until they build sufficient offensive combat power. For some reason ($$$/kompromat/idiocy) German and other powers in Europe are grinding out the release of weapons for Ukraine. Ukraine would love for EU/NATO to actually join the war so they will spin all sorts of things to get nofly, humanitarian corridors, etc. to protect their flanks. Prediction: Ukraine will cut a path to the Black Sea this Summer. Fall will see both sides exhausted and reverting to stalemate. Russia will have to mobilize more of its population to conduct offensives. Ukraine will need much more money and resources to survive. Inflation and elections will be need to be weathered by Western friends of Ukraine. Bitch-ass US and Western consumers will say it costs too much to fill their gas tanks so they will vote to reduce aide to Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2022/06/20/russian-weapons-fuel-pontiac-gang-war-feds-say/7543099001/?gnt-cfr=1v I do not have a digital sub to the Detnews so if anyone could gist this that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, romad1 said: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2022/06/20/russian-weapons-fuel-pontiac-gang-war-feds-say/7543099001/?gnt-cfr=1v I do not have a digital sub to the Detnews so if anyone could gist this that would be great. the article goes into depth mostly about the local gang feud. The Russian connection stuff is this: Quote The focus on street gangs emerged during a series of recent hearings in federal court that illustrated the scope of violence in Pontiac, and in filings that indicate devices purchased from Russian companies are being used to convert pistols into fully automatic, illegal machine guns. In trying to jail accused gang members and associates while awaiting trial, prosecutors described drive-by shootings, Pontiac streets littered with dozens of bullet casings and triggermen linked to multiple gunfights.... ....In the June 2021 incident, two witnesses told investigators they saw alleged R Block gang member Immanuel Gates firing a Glock pistol. Witnesses told ATF investigators the firearm was outfitted with an after-market, illegal switch that converted the firearm into a fully automatic machine gun, Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert Moran said during a recent court hearing..... ....Gates used NBA player names as aliases — including "Magic Johnson" — to buy the devices, investigators said. ATF agents traced the purchases to Gates through cellphone numbers, email addresses and mailing addresses during a shopping spree so lucrative that his contacts in Russia eventually gave him discounts. The search showed Gates paid $100 for a Glock switch from Silencer Sales in early July 2020. The device was supposed to be shipped by "Egor Gorbanenko" to Gates's home on Starlite Lane in The Farm, according to the complaint. In one message reviewed by investigators, Gates warns an acquaintance about being caught with a Glock converted into a fully automatic machine gun. Gates said he would only install the Glock switches when necessary to minimize the risk of being caught and charged with a federal crime, according to the complaint..... ....Federal agents and prosecutors have made concerted efforts to seize smuggled Glock switches in major cities in recent years, including in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Chicago. Last year, ATF agents seized 1,500 weapons modified with Glock switches, up from 300 seizures the prior year, according to federal data obtained by Vice News. Switches convert a semiautomatic pistol into a machine gun but are illegal unless the devices are possessed by someone with a federal firearms license. Gates does not have such a license.... ....The Russian seller asked Gates to pay with Bitcoin, according to a text reviewed by agents. “Can I just pay Western Union bro," Gates wrote, "I spend so much money with y’all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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