gehringer_2 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, mtutiger said: People in RW Twitter (and far lefty Twitter for that matter) are never gonna be satisfied with anything this administration does on Ukraine. Regardless of whether there is invasion (ie. The US looks weak, all Biden's fault) or not (ie. Biden was just being alarmist, needless provacative, trying to goose weapons sales, etc.) I think the admin has played their hand pretty decently so far on the information war. The best psyops tactic you have against Putin is make it look like you are predicting what he is doing because he will hate more than anything else to prove you right. So the public intelligence campaign has been a good work. No doubt not enough by itself but a good piece of an overall effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, mtutiger said: People in RW Twitter (and far lefty Twitter for that matter) are never gonna be satisfied with anything this administration does on Ukraine. Regardless of whether there is invasion (ie. The US looks weak, all Biden's fault) or not (ie. Biden was just being alarmist, needless provacative, trying to goose weapons sales, etc.) I had an extended discussion with a colleague who is in the Durham-is-too-a-thing camp. She was saying that Biden is weak because he would NEVER fly to Kiev like he needed to to do the diplomacy of this situation. Well, of course not. Why should he fly there? He doesn't have to convince the Ukrainians of anything. "Here are giant bags of money and pallets of ammo and kick-ass tank killing and drone killing missiles. We probably can't get you THAAD or the better Patriot systems without training your folks up, Maybe Turkey loans you some S-400s (which are really S-250s amirite?!) Would you like to get some ice cream? I ran here to prove i'm not sundowning" Same person was upset at impeachment over something, something involving Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I think the admin has played their hand pretty decently so far on the information war. The best psyops tactic you have against Putin is make it look like you are predicting what he is doing because he will hate more than anything else to prove you right. So the public intelligence campaign has been a good work. No doubt not enough by itself but a good piece of an overall effort. Sullivan has impressed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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romad1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Cheeky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 hours ago, romad1 said: Maybe when that war is over that crew can come over and help my city replace the the old lead piping under the streets. The city just took over a year to do a one-mile stretch of Armitage, and they left the street looking like the surface of the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, chasfh said: Maybe when that war is over that crew can come over and help my city replace the the old lead piping under the streets. The city just took over a year to do a one-mile stretch of Armitage, and they left the street looking like the surface of the moon. if it were a military necessity to replace your pipes in a couple hours under gunfire they would invent a way to do that. If it just means kids not being developmentally stunted: well that's what you get for being among the proles. Man, who am i anymore? :--) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Assuming that bridge is located in the Exclusion Zone, I don't exactly envy the crew that was asked to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Good outcome if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: When your standup-comedian turned President is wearing battle fatigues and you are filling stadiums with people to celebrate your independence it gives lie to the beliefs of some very cynical people I have spoken to lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 hours ago, romad1 said: Russian troops are up to ~150,000 right now, surrounding Ukraine on 3 sides. That doesn't even include the Russian naval blockade of Ukraine's Mariupol and Odessa ports. Russia is trying to strangle Ukraine economically, not just militarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Did I ever mention that I F'ing HATE Fascist MF'ing scumbag dictators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Any day now Vlad, correct? You contemptible mf'ing scumbag pos. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/images-show-russian-military-activity-074005587.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK DOES TOM COTTON OR HEW FUCKING HEWITT KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING!? Tom Cotton the pretend ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Tom Cotton needs to let the grown ups do National Security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, romad1 said: wow Like what are the Urkraines suppose to do? You mass 100K+ troops around their border and they suppose to act like everything is fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, romad1 said: wow This supports the idea that Russia wants this to come off as a false flag started by the Ukraine being the aggressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 It occurs to me that the false flag idea of Ukraine precipitating the war through aggressive action is designed to convince the Russian people and who cares who else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 This reminds me of that time that Poland invaded Germany and took over a radio station, and killed some Nazi soldiers. There was photographic evidence of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: This supports the idea that Russia wants this to come off as a false flag started by the Ukraine being the aggressor Part of the Putin playbook. Their state media has been running this falsehood for several days. Some things never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 8 hours ago, romad1 said: wow See what I mean? Putin is adamant. And not just with Ukraine. He wants all US Forces and NATO out of Warsaw Pact countries so he can reinstitute the power of the Soviet Union, including controlling former WP countries. He has put it into writing: https://www.yahoo.com/news/tensions-between-u-russia-just-175129111.html Go F yourself Putin. Based on the response he has given: I mobilize NATO forces to Poland, Germany, and Rumania. Numbering in the 100's of thousands. I mobilize tank and artillery divisions. I mobilize Air Force units and place a naval blockade of the Bosporus Straits. We either defend NATO territory against this fascist scumbag... or we fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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