Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Given that the season is basically over after week 5 and has turned into a complete calamity, I thought it was a good time to start up the 2023 draft thread. Right now we're on track for the #1 pick overall and it doesn't look like that's changing anytime soon. What players are you most interested at this point in time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 anyone who can rush the passer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The Rams don't look good either so potential for two top 15 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Stroud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, buddha said: anyone who can rush the passer. If you've got the choice between an elite edge prospect like Will Anderson or a QB like Bryce Young or CJ Stroud are you still going pass rusher at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 if they have another top three pick it MUST be a qb. i hesitate to say this because its the lions, but most teams dont pick top 3 or so very often. you have to grab a qb if he's there. stroud, levis, and young seem to be the consensus 1-2-3. young is too small, levis too untested, and stroud is too buckeye. i really like bryce young, but i feel he's going to get injured in the nfl because he's so small. stroud is the better prospect but can you beat the buckeye out of him? life is easy for stroud at osu, its a little tougher in the nfl (/fields, justin). i dont know enough about levis to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: If you've got the choice between an elite edge prospect like Will Anderson or a QB like Bryce Young or CJ Stroud are you still going pass rusher at that point? no. but we still desperately need a speed rusher. has to be a qb if its top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 of course, they also desperately need a dt, a lb, a cb, a safety... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I don't trust an Ohio State QB. They are not asked to do the things an NFL QB is asked to do. I understand the concern about Young's size, but Jalen Hurts isn't all that big either. With the right scheme & protection he could be okay. I also would not be heart-broken if they went defense with both picks. That side of the ball is a dumpster fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 9:02 PM, buddha said: if they have another top three pick it MUST be a qb. i hesitate to say this because its the lions, but most teams dont pick top 3 or so very often. you have to grab a qb if he's there. stroud, levis, and young seem to be the consensus 1-2-3. young is too small, levis too untested, and stroud is too buckeye. i really like bryce young, but i feel he's going to get injured in the nfl because he's so small. stroud is the better prospect but can you beat the buckeye out of him? life is easy for stroud at osu, its a little tougher in the nfl (/fields, justin). i dont know enough about levis to say. Have Kyler Murray or Baker Mayfield been injured a lot? I think Murray is who Young compares to the most more than Mayfield in terms of talent. But in terms of size and stature, I don't recall Murray or Mayfield being significantly more injury prone than their peers and missing substantial time as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 We'll see at the combine/pro day, but Young's listed height and weight is almost identical to Drew Brees.* *Disclaimer for KL2; this in no way, shape or form means that Drew Brees and Bryce Young are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Have Kyler Murray or Baker Mayfield been injured a lot? I think Murray is who Young compares to the most more than Mayfield in terms of talent. But in terms of size and stature, I don't recall Murray or Mayfield being significantly more injury prone than their peers and missing substantial time as a result. mayfield has been injured a lot. murray is small but built like a tank. he has had a few injuries, but nothing more than normal for an nfl qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 With the way NFL QBs are protected, I would be more concerned with a short QB being able to see downfield and avoid batted balls. I wonder if Murray or Mayfield have any higher amount of batted balls than other QBs? Drew Brees compensated for his short stature with a high release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 4:31 PM, djhutch said: I don't trust an Ohio State QB. They are not asked to do the things an NFL QB is asked to do. I understand the concern about Young's size, but Jalen Hurts isn't all that big either. With the right scheme & protection he could be okay. I also would not be heart-broken if they went defense with both picks. That side of the ball is a dumpster fire. I don't trust Ohio State QBs ause of the past But take an alabama guy. Mac Jones, Tua, Jalen Hurts, mcCarron, McElroy, Croyle are who Saban has had drafted. Not like that group is lighting it up either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 9:24 AM, Motown Bombers said: We'll see at the combine/pro day, but Young's listed height and weight is almost identical to Drew Brees.* *Disclaimer for KL2; this in no way, shape or form means that Drew Brees and Bryce Young are the same. So then the point of your comment was? That humans have similar heights and weight. Thanks for the amazing insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 i worry about young getting injured in the pros because he looks slight for a qb and he's been injured in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, KL2 said: So then the point of your comment was? That humans have similar heights and weight. Thanks for the amazing insight. Find that post of me saying Goff and Stafford are the same liar? You're welcome for the insight. Unfortunately a year from now you'll just be lying about what I actually said. Edited October 14, 2022 by Motown Bombers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Tennessee's Hendon Hooker is a big QB having a great year...has an opportunity to make some bank with a great game against Bama tomorrow. Outside of the injured Jalen Carter...is there a DT worth taking in the top 15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhutch Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, KL2 said: So then the point of your comment was? That humans have similar heights and weight. Thanks for the amazing insight. Why can you not point out differences of opinion without coming off as an insolent 12 yr old? Edited October 14, 2022 by djhutch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 From scouts and football people I follow on Twitter according to many of their remarks the biggest hinderance for shorter qbs is not necessarily the batted balls even though that doesnt help either but just their overall vision on the field and how much more apt they are to miss a wide open receiver and/or a defender "laying in the weeds" baiting the throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 That latest Heisman House commercial with Tebow and Young really puts into perspective how slight of frame Young is. Tebow dwarfed him and made him look like a small child. Yeah Tebow is a buff dude but he looked like an old school Middle linebacker next to Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 What are people's thoughts on Bijan Robinson, the RB out of Texas? Peeked at a couple mocks this morning and at least one had us taking him with the Rams pick, comparing him to Saquon Barkley. I haven't been blown away by any (either) of the high 1st Round QB prospects. They seem to have a flaw or flaws that could prove deadly, which is a dangerous proposition for a pick you hang your regime on. Plus they probably won't be there anyway, they'll likely go 1 and 2. I like the later 1sts/2nd round QB prospects more (Hooker, Richardson, Levis, maybe Jefferson or Penix), as possible franchise QBs with less risk than a Young or Stroud. I don't think we will be giving Swift any sort of meaningful extension and Jamaal is on his contract year. If we are sticking with Goff for at least one more year, I think his success is directly correlated to the talent that surrounds him. Even beyond that, if we do take Hooker or Richardson (or whoever), their success in late 2024 is also going to be predicated on the talent around him (see Trevor Lawrence, see Mac Jones). I'm not usually a fan of 1st round RBs, but I can see the appeal of putting in a true RB1 bell cow behind this line and between ASB and Jamo. And you'd still have three picks across the first two rounds, plus free agency, to plug-and-play with the secondary (LB and CB especially) and/or take a future QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 i dont want a running back in the first round. definitely not with a top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 RBs these days have a short shelf life. And if Robinson stays healthy through his rookie contract, you’ll have to sign him to a massive extension or let him walk. This was kind of the same argument on Hock. If he has the potential to be as game-changing as Kittle or Kelce (ha!), positional value doesn’t matter. We see how that worked out, with Holmes deciding he wasn’t worth the contract he would command… while the next guy, Ed Oliver, is at least as valuable as Hock but will re-sign for much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 With possibly two top 15 picks, I think you use them on defense regardless of position. Best player available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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