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Probably twice as many turnovers...

MAHA means culling the weak from the American society by allowing them to die from preventable diseases. Survival of the fittest. Meanwhile, MAGA means total discrimination and keeping the poor hungry. Eliminate the elderly, who soak up too many resources and are too expensive to support. And remove any foreign speaking people from our country unless they are wealthy enough to pay their own way.

Might as well not lose

Duren has played 56 minutes combined the past two games. He has 6 total rebounds. A rebound every 9 minutes played for a center is crazy.

This clip shows the difference between a coach building culture and a coach trying to win. When you are losing 50+ games a season, absolutely build confidence and give people a longer leash. But it's time to win, and you have to put your best lineup on the floor at all times in the playoffs. JB doesn't seem to understand that.

Follow Gage and get to work men.

If we could have traded 2 4ths and a 5th to get an additional 2nd I’m 100% in. Still could have overdrafted Moore and selected someone better than Rolder and Abney at 50.

Undisclosed inappropriate text to female staffer

Trash yet the Pistons will pay him $40m/yr because of good locker room vibes, only 23 years old or some other **** that we heard about Andre Drummond as well. Meanwhile Reed did more in 10 minutes or so in the last two games than Duren did the whole series. In any event, I felt whoever won this game will win the series and feel even stronger about that now. Cleveland just has the better personnel top to bottom even though they're a bit soft. It doesn't help that JB coaches playoff games as bad as Duren plays them and Stewart is like 20% of what he normally is for the second straight playoffs. It doesn't look good either way.

That's the problem with so little shooting. JB feels he has to keep him in at all costs in hopes he eventually will provide some spacing.

That extension is looking pretty stupid.

duncan plays 29 minutes and has 4 points and 4 fouls. javonte green and ron holland cant get off the bench even when duncan is an active detriment to the team. danniss: 21 minutes, 2 points.

everyone on this thread who has paid attention all year predicted what jalen duren would - or more accurately, wouldnt - do in the playoffs. but what the hell happend to stew? he's been a non-entity since game 5 in orlando. the guy who was the heart of your team is passive and a detriment whenever he gets on the floor.

Cleveland took 76 shots tonight. 41 were three point attempts and they still shot 32 FT's

duren: 27 mins. 8 pts. 4 turnovers, 2 rebounds. TWO REBOUNDS IN 27 MINUTES.

Hahahaha. It’s JB Bickerstaff. Duren is starting like this game never happened. The only question is if Stew is still the first big off the bench before Reed.

Should have made Duren play garbage time

Paul Reed better be the starter in Game 5.

Cade needs to put this team on his back in game 5. 40 points and less than 5 TO.

Refs were bad. Piston players were bad. Piston coaches were bad. It was just bad.

It’s so obvious too. So many late whistles after they see the ball didn’t go in. If he misses and screams at the ref it’s a foul.

the refs knew the assignment.