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FWIW, I don’t think Harris has confirmed that Miggy is a lock to make next year’s team. What he said was it “is not time to move on from Miguel Cabrera … he's committed to doing the work to make sure that he stays a productive player … he has earned that.” I read that as, at least as of September 30 of this year, we are not committed to either releasing Miggy nor guaranteeing him a spot next year, and it is up to him to show us that he both is willing and ready to make positive contributions to this team in 2023. I think there’s at least half a chance Harris and A.J. spend the winter massaging the idea into Miggy’s head that it really is time to go, and even though he may show up in Lakeland next February, by the time March 30 rolls around, I think there’s a good chance he will not be on the active roster, and a decent chance he may not even be on the 40-man. Miggy may spend practically the entire year on the 60-day IL, traveling around with the team on his league-wide retirement tour and being our Hall-of-Fame cheerleader in the dugout and clubhouse, and perhaps coming off the list only to have his final ABs in front of the home crowd.

And I think the opinions frame it more about who he would be blocking internally and kinda sidesteps the fact that the Tigers very well could be looking outside of the organization (through free agency and trade or even waiver wire) in order to upgrade going into 2023. 1B depth is the most obvious example - Torkelson struggled this year and, despite a stretch of improved play upon his callup, it is less than ideal to have to roll into 2023 with a situation where you have Harold Castro or Eric Haase as your fallback options for depth. With Miggy on the roster, you can't go out and get a Brandon Belt or Eric Hosmer on a one year deal because Miggy, who doesn't field or run the bases at this point, takes that spot. Outfield is another one - lets say they go want to go out and get someone like Adam Duvall or Mitch Haniger), from there, it's not hard to see them in a situation where they are having to relegate someone to Toledo who is capable of putting up better numbers than Miguel (Kerry Carpenter comes to mind). Put another way, Miguel isn't just blocking people internally, he could have an impact on how you build this roster from the outside as well. Now, Scott Harris says that he will work around it and, given his track record, I'm good with that. Personally, though, it's hard not to see Miguel as an impediment to the goal of putting the best possible version of the 2023 Detroit Tigers out on the field.

My dog has lost all hope.

I disagree that he's not blocking anyone. He's actually blocking anyone else that can field a position and/or run the bases.

I would be happy with this. I mean look they would be stupid to treat Miguel with disrespect and hes earned HoF respect. I'd like the Tigers to start acting more like the Cardinals, in that even with the HoF legends, it is about production and winning, and if you're not producing and winning you're not gonna play. I get the Cardinals are in that position because they've earned it and because they were a playoff caliber team when Pujols rejoined them. Obviously the Tigers havent earned that kind of respect. However, Harris as the new GM needs to develop the kind of relationship with Miggy and start building higher (and still realistic) expectations for improved on field performance for the organization, so that everybody, even Miggy, will be willing to do what Harris feels is best for the team. The above may seem pie in the sky to some, but if Miggy is not willing to meet Harris on Harris's terms, then Miggy's approach could be detrimental to the new organizational philosophy, even if its just for one year.

He's probably been close on several occasions over the last 6 decades. She asked how old he was, and my response was "chronologically or mileage?".

Please point it at Detroit

My memory of following Detroit sports goes back to about 1975 and the 2022 Detroit Tigers are, easily, the most disappointing team that I can remember. We've had worse seasons, no doubt, but this season was................painful. There seemed to be a Bad Karma bomb that went off around this team. Unbelievable Amount of Pitching Lost to Injury. I've never seen an equal to it We used 30 pitchers this year. Yikes. A team that was shut out, what, 20 times? More? I lost count. Several experienced major league players having their career-worst seasons all at the same time. Sorry, I'm not blaming the ball. I can't see Scott Coolbaugh returning, but who knows? A big free agent shortstop who only decided to hit when the team was completely out of it and was the worst defensive shortstop in baseball. In fact, all of the big name shortstops that were available had very disappointing seasons. The Texas Tandem has on OBP of under .310 and neither broke the 100 RBI barrier. Trevor Story ad an OPS of .737. Carlos Correa was the best of them, but was that a $35 million season? It seemed like when Riley Greene fouled a ball off his foot it felt like an omen...............because it was Almost nothing went right this year. The highlight.......... Miggy got his 3,000th hit Al Avila finally got canned. As far as some players looking better in September............I really don't care. It doesn't matter. That's like Tony Clark, Damian Easley all over again. Second Half warriors don't mean anything when you're 25 games out when they finally get hot. This year was so bad that I really feel like nobody deserves to come back, including AJ and his staff. I don't think Scott Harris leaves home to come here without total control. I think it should be a total cleansing here. I think we'll see far more moves in the operations side than in player personnel. I don't know how much you can move with the players. Gotta have more to make forward moves. I think we'll see massive organizational changes. If AJ does not receive a great offer elsewhere, he will be back. I'm kind of indifferent to that at this point. I think you'll see changes at Comerica Park too. I think the outfield walls will be coming in a bit, especially in Right Center field. I don't know if they can get that approved by 2023, but for sure by 2024. Scott Harris has quite a job ahead of him. I think that means at least 3 more years of the R word. I just hope they can fix Spence, Let RK marinate in the minors, where he belongs, not lose all 3 of their 3 young arms in 2023 (I have my doubts) and I certainly hope we don't build Riley Greene into something he's not -- a superstar. It would be great if he could be a Curtis Granderson, but he's probably closer to an Austin Jackson...........nothing wrong with that, but if we build him into sainthood and he hits .277 with 15 home runs, are we going to tear him down? The Lions also disappointing some and the Wings and Pistons not being ready yet it looks like another playoff free calendar year for Suck City. 1984 - 2013 we always had a championship-level team around here, why do we have to pay such a steep price for that now. What did we do to deserve this?

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Sure, if he competes he'll be able to make a spot on this team just like anybody else. I just don't think there will be anymore patience after this year to wait for him to catch up to where he needs to be in the NFL. Your back still hurts? Sorry, it can hurt somewhere else or it's time to retire. That's the nature of this league. We can only hold a roster spot in abeyance for so long before that hold is a liability in and of itself.

Cabrera wasn't a prima donna last spring, so I don't know why he would be next spring. He openly said that Baez was going to lead the team. As for "the team is bad so might as well keep Miggy", that was never said by anyone here. No one wants Cabrera on the team, but not many people want to release him either. So there we are. I don't think that there is any middle ground to fantasize about. The guy who gets the blame is dead, and there is nothing that Avila or Harris can do about it.

There is enough rot on this team offensively that Miggy had limited impact on offensive performance. That is not the point in my view. Either an organization conveys to its members and stakeholders it is committed to excellence or it doesn't. The Tigers are in the latter category. It has roughly 40 percent of its 40 man roster that needs to be gone regardless of what they do with Miggy. They need a 3B, an SS and an outfielder, with the outfielder being the easiest to get. I do believe very strongly that Miggy's mere presence is a problem. I also know whatever I think about that has less value than a half pint of cold spit. He will be on the team. The minimum offensive goal should be a team OPS of .700. As for Jake Rogers, I assume he will be "Just A Guy" at best next year.

they can beat any team on their schedule, its the nfl. they could also lose to the backups of any team on the schedule, its the lions.

History is full of good lessons and bad lessons.

What about Fetter? Has his pitching philosophy contributed to all of the injuries? I’m not smart enough to know, and not a conspiracy theorist, but Turnbull, Mize, Skubal, Manning, Brieske and Funkhouser have all sustained arm-related injuries. Bad luck? Sign of the times? Or something else? Cody Stavenhagen needs to get to the bottom of this.

Sorry guys. I’ve got complete meltdown today. Offense struggles and defense is just as bad. First complete clunker of the season. NE 38 Lions 9

I have any control over whos on the roster

ive never been more depressed about the lions as i am after the last two weeks. shame on me for thinking they might be turning it around. and i'll talk myself back into thinking theyre on the right track and that its the injuries, etc etc. sucks to root for this stupid team. add zappe to the long list of never weres and has beens who have made the lions (and their forever gullible fans) look stupid. oh well. its hockey season now.