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With another year in the books, here's a look at the people associated with the Tigers who passed away in 2024. Jim Hannan pitched for the Tigers in 1971, going 1-0 with a 3.27 ERA in 7 games, all in relief. Acquired in the offseason as part of a blockbuster, 8-player trade with the Washington Senators that netted the team Aurelio Rodriguez and Ed Brinkman, Hannan was again traded six weeks into the ‘71 season, this time to the Milwaukee Brewers in exchange for John Gelnar and Jose Herrera, neither of whom ever played in a game for the Tigers. Hannan also appeared in the majors with the Senators and Brewers. He died February 8 at the age of 85. Chuck Seelbach pitched for the Tigers from 1971-1974, compiling a record of 10-8 with a 3.38 ERA and 14 saves in 75 total games, with the vast majority coming in 1972. He debuted as a September call-up in 1971, was a heavily used bullpen arm in 1972, and then spent most of the 1973 & 1974 seasons injured. Becoming a history teacher at an all-boys school in Ohio after retiring, Seelbach did not appear in the majors with any other team. He died March 27 at the age of 76. Ed Ott was the Tigers’ bullpen coach from 2001-2002, serving under manager Phil Garner before being fired along with Garner and three other coaches by Dave Dombrowski after the Tigers started the 2002 season 0-6. As a player, Ott appeared in the majors with the Pirates and Angels, and also coached in the majors with the Astros. He died March 3 at the age of 72. Whitey Herzog played for the Tigers in 1963, batting .151 with 7 RBI in 52 games as a backup utility player, used mainly as a pinch hitter. Acquired from Baltimore in a 3-player deal after the 1962 season, he spent the entire season on the major league roster before retiring as a player to concentrate on scouting, coaching, and managing. Elected to the Hall of Fame as a manager in 2010, Herzog also appeared in the majors with the Senators, KC Athletics, and Orioles, and managed the Rangers, Angels, Royals, and Cardinals. He died April 15 at the age of 92. Hank Foiles played for the Tigers in 1960, batting .250 with 3 RBI in 26 games as a catcher, one of three teams Foiles played for in 1960 alone. Acquired from the Indians on July 26, he spent the remainder of the season with the Tigers as the team's backup catcher before being drafted by the Orioles after the season. Usually a part-time player, he was only a starter for two years with the Pirates, but made the most of it, being named to the 1957 NL All-Star team. Foiles also appeared in the majors with the Reds, Indians, Pirates, KC Athletics, Orioles, and Angels. He died May 21 at the age of 94. Mike Brumley played for the Tigers in 1989, batting .198 with 1 home run and 11 RBI in 92 games as a utility player, spending time at second base, shortstop, third base, and all three outfield positions. Acquired in a trade with the San Diego Padres in spring training, he was traded to the Baltimore Orioles in the 1989 off-season in exchange for outfielder Larry Sheets. Brumley also appeared in the majors with the Cubs, Mariners, Red Sox, Astros, and Athletics. He died in a car accident June 15 at the age of 62. Jimmy Hurst played for the Tigers in 1997, appearing in 13 games as a September call-up and batting .176 with 1 home run, his bomb coming off of David Wells in a 6-1 loss to the Yankees. Hurst did not appear in the majors with any other team. He died July 6 at the age of 52. Jerry Walker served as the Tigers general manager in 1993. Among his achievements were signing Kirk Gibson and David Wells as free agents and acquiring outfielder Erid Davis in a trade with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Walker pitched in the majors with the Orioles, Athletics, and Indians, was a pitching coach for the Yankees and Astros, and also worked in the front offices of the Cardinals and Reds. He died July 14 at the age of 85. Doug Creek pitched for the Tigers in 2005, appearing in 20 games, all in relief. He compiled a record of 0-0, with 0 saves, 18 strikeouts, and a 6.85 ERA in 22 ⅓ innings pitched, receiving his release on July 22. Creek also appeared in the majors with the Cardinals, Giants, Cubs, Devil Rays, Mariners, and Blue Jays. He died July 28 at the age of 55. Billy Bean played for the Tigers from 1987-1989, batting .216 with 4 RBI in 45 total games, many of them as a defensive replacement at various positions. He spent much of his time in the Tigers organization with AAA Toledo, coming up to the major league club as an injury replacement or September call-up. Following his playing career, he became the second MLB player to publicly come out as gay, after which he worked as an inclusivity ambassador for MLB. Bean also appeared in the majors with the Dodgers and Padres. He died August 6 at the age of 60. Jim Brady pitched in 6 games for the 1956 Tigers, surrendering 20 earned runs in 6 1/3 innings pitched for an ERA of 28.42. His contract status as a “bonus baby” meant that he had to spend the entire season on the major league roster, though he was used only 6 times. Following his brief baseball career, he became a college professor of economics and was eventually named president of Jacksonville University. Brady did not appear in the majors with any other team. He died August 18 at the age of 88. Don Wert played for the Tigers from 1963-1970, batting .244 with 77 home runs and 363 RBI in 1,090 games as an infielder, mainly a third baseman. An American League All-Star in 1968, he batted just .118 in the World Series against the Cardinals that year but played in 6 of the 7 games as the team’s starting third baseman. Also in 1968, Wert was hit in the head with a pitch from Cleveland’s Hal Kurtz, shattering Wert’s helmet and knocking him unconscious. He was carried off the field on a stretcher, spending two full days in the hospital recovering, and batted .200 after his return. Traded to Washington after the 1970 season in the Denny McLain-Ed Brinkman deal, Wert also appeared in the majors with the Senators. He died August 25 at the age of 86. John Baumgartner played in 7 games for the 1953 Tigers, batting .185 with 2 RBI in 27 plate appearances as a third baseman before being sent back to the minors for good. Of his 7 major league games, 6 of them were losses. Replaced by Ray Boone at third, Baumgartner did not appear in the majors with any other team. He died September 25 at the age of 93. Ozzie Virgil played for the Tigers in 1958 and from 1960-1961, batting .228 with 7 home runs and 33 RBI in 131 games as an infielder. The first African-American player in Tigers history, he was also the first player born in the Dominican Republic to play in the majors when he debuted with the Giants. After splitting the 1958 season between Detroit and the minor leagues, he played all of 1959 in the minors before again shuttling between the major and minor leagues in 1960, finally being traded to the Kansas City Athletics midway through the 1961 season. Virgil also appeared in the majors with the New York Giants, Kansas City Athletics, Baltimore Orioles, Pittsburgh Pirates, and San Francisco Giants. He died September 29 at the age of 92. Ray Semproch pitched for the Tigers in 1960, going 3-0 with a 4.00 ERA in 17 games, all of them in relief. Acquired from the Phillies in the off-season, he was traded to the Dodgers on June 21 in exchange for fellow reliever Clem Labine and was assigned to LA’s AAA team in Spokane. Semproch also appeared in the majors with the Phillies and Angels. He died October 27 at the age of 93. Merv Rettenmund was the Tigers’ hitting coach in 2002, one of the only coaches to survive the housecleaning after the team’s 0-6 start. He was dismissed following the season as new manager Alan Trammell brought in his own coaching squad. As a player, Rettenmund appeared in the majors with the Orioles, Reds, Padres, and Angels, and he also coached in the majors with the Rangers, Athletics, Padres, and Braves. He died December 7 at the age of 81. Rocky Colavito played for the Tigers from 1960-1963, batting .271 with 139 home runs and 430 RBI in 629 games as an outfielder, mainly in left field. He was acquired from the Cleveland Indians in a blockbuster trade just before the 1960 season in exchange for outfielder Harvey Kuenn, with Colavito, the 1959 home run champion swapped for Kuenn, the 1959 batting champion. Colavito responded by hitting 45 home runs with 140 RBI in 1960, easily leading the team in both categories. A five-time All-Star (twice with the Tigers), Colavito also appeared in the majors with the Indians, KC Athletics, White Sox, Dodgers, and Yankees. He died December 10 at the age of 91. Gary Sutherland played for the Tigers from 1974-1976, batting .251 with 11 home runs and 94 RBI in 320 games as an infielder, mainly at second base. Known for his prowess at turning double plays, he was acquired from Houston in a 3-player deal after the 1973 season and became the starting second baseman for the 1974 squad. After struggling defensively in 1975, he was diagnosed with diabetes after complaining of headaches and dizziness and adopted a custom diet in which he ate peanut butter, saltines, and raisins three times daily. Traded to Milwaukee in exchange for infielder Pedro Garcia midway through the 1976 season, Sutherland also appeared in the majors with the Phillies, Expos, Astros, Brewers, Padres, and Cardinals. He died December 16 at the age of 80. Charlie Maxwell played for the Tigers from 1955-1962, batting .268 with 133 home runs and 455 RBI in 853 games as an outfielder. An excellent defensive outfielder, he led the American League in fielding percentage as an outfielder in four of his seven full seasons with Detroit and was twice an All-Star, in 1956 and 1957. In 1959, Maxwell hit home runs in four consecutive at bats during a Sunday doubleheader, and hit 12 of his 31 home runs overall on Sundays, leading to the nickname “Sunday Charlie” - to go along with his nickname of “Paw Paw” Maxwell, derived from his hometown of Paw Paw, Michigan. Following his playing career, Maxwell returned to Paw Paw and opened a successful auto parts business. Maxwell also appeared in the majors with the Red Sox, Orioles, and White Sox. He died December 27 at the age of 97.

But the circumstances of their presence isn't why their performance is better or worse. If the issue is that the need for skilled labor should be reflected in who immigration policy favors, then MTU's point is exactly valid.

“In the Parker” sure is, and this was such a fun, late night moment to experience live (for this ESTer who stayed up late for this game). This catch saved the game. We were clinging to a 3-2 lead in the bottom of the 8th, and this would’ve been a two-run bomb by Raleigh. Additionally, Benetti’s call was spectacular as usual (“he planted, he jumped, and he made himself into a poster!”). I can’t wait for more Parker Meadows OF thievery in 2025.

I am not offended if we want to allow more immigration, I am not offended if the country decides to allow less. I am offended by the hypocrisy of letting millions of people into the country on a nod and wink for the benefit of employers without giving them rights or a path to citizenship.

Bad loss for the Suns last night. Booker, KD, and Beal all played. Ja and a few more key Memphis players did not play and Phoenix still lost. They are currently in the 11th seed which means they are not even in the play-in game. Someone said with tax penalties their payroll is the highest in the league at just over $400M. Disaster.

Not going to lie, when the Lions signed Anzalone, I did not expect him to be an important cog in a 14-2 Super Bowl contender.

Stop me if you've heard this one before: KD tries to lead a super-team and...

I think we all slept on him a bit. His agility times/measurements at the draft combine were right there with Ron Holland.

You can probably figure that when a problem sits in Congress for 40 yrs without resolution, it's because there are powerful interests in it not being resolved.

It’d be interesting to see how much of that WAR was earned with the original drafting team.

Which gets back to the point I made a week or so ago which is that this problem is almost impossible to solve because there isn't consensus on what the problem actually... *is*. If we had an immigration system where it didn't take years for folks to apply to come, we'd probably have less illegal immigration. But a lot of Trump-style Rs (ie. the Stephen Miller crowd) have zero interest in making it easier to come here to work legally... if anything, they want to make it harder to impossible to come here and work. Good luck solving this issue with this level of incoherence.

I'm willing to occam's razor the cybertruck being a POS until further information comes in.

This is actually against Orlando. The Charlotte game is Friday. Cade listed as probable with a sore knee. Tech is out for personal reasons.

Probably a lot of Trump donors lol

I thjnk the elephant in the room is that people are ok with Indians from Chennai being here as doctors and engineers but not with Mexicans being here. They just want say it.

In terms of negativity on people who died…. The context is important. Critics of Carter are doing it in the context of his job performance and execution of policies. That’s far different that being a bad person and doing bad things. Yeah there will be gray areas, like Dubya and the Iraq war and intentions and all that. You can judge those responses on their own merit when the time comes. When DJT finally croaks I will criticize him for all the non potus related things he deserves to be criticized for. We are under no obligation to hold back and be nice for a period of time.

Whenever Detroit played the white Sox I would watch the Chicago broadcast because I liked the Benetti and Stone combo and could barely tolerate Shep, Morris, Gibby and Monroe

If we are talking about what policy should be, it's on the assumption policy will or needs to change. What policy is does not bind what it should be, and the arguments to support what it should be can't be constrained by what it is.

"He will play, you know he will play. He will play on crutches. He will play".

KeePassXC might be worth looking at for you. Open Source and a version on every platform including both mobile OS's. I then use something to sync the files across all my devices. But you could do that with a cron job too. I have to use a PW manager. I bet I have over a thousand passwords and they all look something like this: So no way I'm remembering that. I remember a single password to open the encrypted file that holds all the passwords. The girl knows the password so if I die she has access to everything. Every two weeks the file is put on a thumb drive with everything else I want backed up, taxes, personal documents, etc and put in my safe deposit box. 2FA is used when available. I also have copies of the master file on each device since I sync those.

Ok, it MAY not be as bad as the Detroit Times' re-tweet. I saw they sourced it from Ian Rapoport, but there was nothing on Ian's X feed about it. So I see that it comes from a radio interview he did this morning. Seems to me he just assumes it, rather than getting a news alert from Campbell about it. https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/aidan-hutchinson-making-strides-pool-workout “You saw David Montgomery in those highlights making a bunch of plays, really has been one of the best backs in the NFL through the course of the year. Of course, not gonna play in this game," said Rapoport. "Still rehabbing that knee injury, but not going to play in this game. (He’s) one of a slew of Lions players who played in that (Week 7) game and are not going to play in this one. Aidan Hutchinson is not gonna play in both games, so he is not on the list. Alex Anzalone, the play-making linebacker with a broken forearm, he played in that (Week 7) game, not gonna play in this one. Malcolm Rodriguez, "Rodrigo", the tackling machine of a linebacker. He has a torn ACL, he is out. Carlton Davis with a fractured jaw, another one who is out for this game, potentially has a chance to come back for the playoffs. And then Alim McNeill, their star defensive lineman, he is out with a torn ACL. So, he is for sure out for the season. That’s the Lions, and it’s a lot of them. A lot of them who played in this game and are not gonna play in the game on Sunday night.”

as someone who watches the white sox regularly, i can tell you this was my favorite season to see them. in fact the ONLY disappointment in this year's viewing was not being able to hear hawk harrelson cry on air after every soul crushing defeat as his team inched inevitably toward historical infamy. listening to their new punk announcer get pilloried all season for his fake enthusiasm and ridiculous homerism while steve stone twitched angrily next to him only slightly made up for it. god bless the 2024 white sox. may they repeat this season many many more times.🎉

While one may have immigrated "legally", his intentions were not exactly kosher. How much time did he spend in college on his student visa?

I think it has as much to do with the rise of social media. There has always been a big difference between what's said to the next of kin or in a funeral service, and the conversations in the cars of the acquaintance on the way to the funeral. It's just that the latter get shared much more widely because the kinds of conversations people used to have in 'private' aren't as private anymore. But I will grant that what has changed is the acceptance of low class behavior in general, and in a sense, it's I think that's also a symptom of that same blurring between public and private discourse. In the social media era we have monetized the kind of speech that used to remain private - so now we get it marketed in public.

There are people outraged over "woke" which is simply having empathy for human beings so..... Trump has made hate great again.

The early episodes, they are (first two seasons at least. That's where I am). I know the Peacock streams of a lot of the 2000's eras are like 20 minutes because of rights issues. I made a spotify playlist to add songs as I come across them in my binge (if available):

Check out this moron.

Keene just came in, if Davis doesn't bolt that's two options if Underwood is redshirted. Wouldn't be surprised if Orji could succeed at any skill position at D1 except the one he wants to play.

One good play, but otherwise continues to be snake bit with his puck handling. Getting Tarasenko going would be a good 1st victory for McLellan. I like that McLellan split up Edvinsson and Seider. Two decent pairs is better than two mostly bad pairs.

Not sure what it all means but all Terry Gilliam references get a like.

Petersson is only 26. He scored 102 points in the 2022-23 season and 89 points in the 2023-24 season. Even this season for all his struggles he has put up 10-18-28 in 34 games. I think he just needs a change in scenery. Having said that, I do agree with you about the big contract and I too would rather snag a free agent like Marner for big $ without having to give up assets.

Think of your finances!

So, we feel a lot better about this team going into next season. Love bookends against the premium SEC school of the past two decades which happens to be my Dad's alma mater. My mentally handicapped brother was rubbing it in on him on the phone. I'm like: "the man is 95, dude...go easy!"

I had to cut it off at 12 wins... it just got too crowded at that bottom. In case you're curious: 11 - Tommy Hudspeth 10 - Harry Gilmer & Rod Marinelli 6 - Gus Henderson & Don McCafferty 5 - Marty Mornhinweg 4 - Bill Edwards & Gary Moeller 1 - **** Jauron & Darrell Bevell 0 - John Karcis (coached 8 games, no wins.) & Robert Price Quick Edit to add: This is only regular season wins.

8-5 season but with wins over USC, Michigan State, Ohio State and Alabama.

Watching him defend Ivey on that last shot the other night makes me think Brown had some legitimate complaints.

43% from straight away is really impressive. Obviously needs a lot of work still at the rim.

Darn, now we’ll never see the reboot.