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Not true. Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was convicted of Sedition and received 18 years. He was not at the Capital Riot. He organized a key part of it. As did Trump.

Garbage. Or at least I hope it's garbage. Because I think it's garbage to not put 3 & D over and above those 3 guys. And that means Miller-Hendricks-Whitmore, in any order you want them. It's just GOTTA be some heavy, heavy smokescreen. Please.

I'd rather just wait until the 2nd or 3rd round to start taking pitchers... just on principle. As many have mentioned... starters aren't really pitching 7+ anymore... it's more like 5-6 innings topping out at 7. The value is just not there. I'm taking position players only in the 1st round (if I were a GM that is...), and finding good pitchers after the 1st to fill out rotations and BP. It's not like I want to avoid drafting pitchers... but to me, the 1st round is the premium round so I want the premium "value" as much as I want the premium player and that's not pitching anymore. I hope Harris thinks the same way. And I haven't even gotten into the value of "position" players playing every day versus pitchers pitching only every 5th day... I don't really have to because "Starter" really only means "pitches half a game every 5 days", nowadays. For all the bashing of Avila, hasn't he found cheap trade guys (Wentz & Olson and others) and after-1st round pitching that Fetters has turned into gold dust (I won't say it's been Ft Knox gold... but at least some little bit of gold dust methinks...)? Our pitching has been kept afloat not by Mize & Manning, but Wentz's and Olson's and Brieske's and Foley's and Lange's and such. Hopefully Harris keeps that up. But as for 1st round value... if Crews and Langford are already gone, I'd rather go the Catcher or HS bat, and I don't care who Harris values at the #3 more and selects... so long as it's not a pitcher. Any pitcher.

Add in Doug Fister. And Anibel Sanchez. Also... does Harris even have those chops? DD certainly did...

Or this...

Not "to win" this year, necessarily... But just to add a key element to the team, for future/ short-term use. It would be a Paredes for Austin Meadows trade only hopefully not for someone who falls apart at the seams... Sorry to Austin, it's, just, the truth.

It'd be nice to get some healthy starters for once in two years (or is it 3?). Both at Detroit but also at Toledo. Add Brieske to that group. Whoever loses out a spot in Detroit is now depth at Toledo... where they should be. Also... all the starters at full health means that we can finally kick one or two over to the BP. I would start with Faedo & Flores.

"We are 'Positioning' at the Trade Deadline this year...".

I wouldn't have minded the Lions saying yes, with: Dan Campbell opening up this year's Hard Knocks with the following statement: "Who wants to go to the Super Bowl? Because if you want to go there, and we all do... then this is what we are going to need to do...".

My Pistons Draft Board at the #5 pick is: 1. Miller 2. Hendricks 3. Whitmore 4. Amen

Camp Stanley. 15th Artillery. A few miles outside of Seoul.

I have at least one of those... For another timed and not for public consumption... I have a few KATUSA stories as well...

There would be a whole crew wearing those jerseys... they'd be known as... The D*ck Squad.

Does anyone remember the "conversations" between Obama and Trump that made it to youtube I think? The brainless F'ing moron "Trump" asking "Obama" how to run the country... they were absolutely hilarious. I think a whole stream of skits/ ads with Trump behind bars would: (A) Excoriate him. (B) Make him look like an absolute joke. (C) Get ALL the independents to vote straight Dem. He'd still have a chance anyways, with the EC.

CUT to Advertisement: (a Trump look-alike) In Orange, behind bars, pacing back and forth screaming at the top of his lungs: "Let me out of here! I AM the President of the United States, I don't give a CRAP who you voted for! I'm the best President in the HISTORY of all presidents. I have the plan for America, NOT Sleepy Joe Biden! I'm going to ATTACK Iran to get their oil because they are bad, very bad guys! I'll end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours by giving it to Russia! I'm going to deport anyone I don't like to Siberia! Anyone getting an abortion should be EXECUTED! I'M the DICTATOR, GET ME THE F..." cut to black. A map of America... goes up in flames.

It's not spoken of as often... But I spent 1.5 years next to the DMZ in Korea keeping the Kims from terrorizing the South, or Japan for that matter... Defensive. Not offensive.

It's Hendricks for me. Cut and dried.

If I had to recall one, and only one Indian man's name, it would be Geronimo. Of course, that's not his real name either.

Stunning Eyes!

Gross.

As well as the speed, war IQ, armament, and distance advantages the West has given to Ukraine.

That is... TODAY. That is NOT... Tomorrow. And it's WAAAAY too early to be making final judgement calls on "Avila's kids". And you know that, don't you?

This is not correct. Try again. But let me be more specific: I was NOT the only one who said Riley Greene would be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Torkelson would be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Skubal would be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Mize would be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Manning would be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Colt Keith could be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Roberto Campos could be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Dingler could be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Madden could be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Parker Meadows could be a major leaguer... I was NOT the only one who said Brieske could be a major leaguer... etc., etc., etc... SCOUTS have said the same thing. If you are saying that I am the ONLY one claiming these guys will be major leaguers and the ONLY reason I think these guys will be major leaguers is because I'm a Tigers fan than I am calling straight-up BULL****. Because it is. It is NOT blind faith. Which does NOT mean that every single one of these guys (and a longer list) will make it. Obviously there will be failures.

Agree 100% There is no possible way for FA's to cover all the sins of a complete failure in prospect development. So however highly optimistic I may be... I am guessing no one else in here wants a 100% failure rate of all of Avila's "prospects". The more that can "figure it out" and become a component of a future competitive team... the better. So... Do you guys wanna do shots for each... Success? Or Failure of a Tigers prospect? (Might depend on one's view towards getting stupid drunk...)

I think I am perfectly aligned with this.