RandyMarsh

Lawlar at 12 as well I believe. It sure would be nice to have either one of them right now.

https://theathletic.com/3461142/2022/08/01/mlb-top-prospects-2022-minor-leaguers?source=user-shared-article Law's updated top 60, only Tiger on it is Jung at number 58. I figured he'd be the only guy with a real chance since Jobe wasnt on his preseason 100 and hasn't exactly lit it up this season so I didn't think he'd move up.

Definitely one of the best of all time and certainly the best winner of all time along with being one of the most influential ambassadors. So weird though, just the other day a video showed up in yt recommendations about Russell so I thought to myself "I can't remember if he passed away or not?" so I went and checked and saw he was still alive. Two days later he dies, same thing happened to me with John Madden last year. I guess I need to stop googling old athlete/celebs to see if they are still alive.

Sounds like a big deal is coming, the M's just traded for Luis Castillo earlier today too so they must be going all in. edit: NVM should've read through the replies before posting cause in them some Mariners fans said that he is probably getting called up due to J-Rod apparently getting hurt.

I used to ask this before and the way it was explained to me was that ERA is strictly there to show how a guy is at actually pitching the ball independent of mistakes made by fielders including himself, if you punished him for making errors that would also mean you are factoring in his defense which isn't what ERA was supposed to do.

I can understand both views but I'm on the side of the strategy being fine, unfortunately we just have a guy that either is a terrible negotiator that also doesn't know how to identify and/or a player development program that screws up the development of the guys they got. As much as I hated seeing Verlander go we got a top 30 prospect, a guy who atleast one of the sites ranked in the top 75 in Daz and Rogers who was seen as borderline top 100 by some. If say that top 30 guy in Perez developed into the frontline guy like many thought he could be, Daz became an Austin Jackson like CFer like some thought he could possibly be at one point and Rogers a solid everyday catcher that would make the trade and in turn our rebuild look alot better. Unfortunately none of those things happened, whether it was because those guys were overhyped and never were going to come close to their ceilings or because the Tigers just failed to develop them? Either way is a detriment to the organization but that doesn't change the fact that the idea to trade a pitcher in his mid 30s who had a ton miles on him for 3 young prospects was correct, particularly when they weren't planning to compete for a couple years. It's just unfortunate we had the wrong person pulling the strings and the pitcher we traded away ended up being a once or twice in a generation type who not only didn't decline in his late 30s but may have actually gotten better.

Regarding Torkelson, admittedly this is all just pure speculation on my part and perhaps it's just me trying to be as optimistic about the situation as possible but perhaps the reason for his struggle in AAA is because they noticed something with his swing and specifically sent him down there to work on those things. Like it would be understandable for his numbers to suffer if he is indeed working through a swing change right now, like the old cliche says "it'll get worse before it gets better" applies to swing or approach changes. Again though there has been no confirmation to this, it's just as likely he isn't hitting cause he is broken/lost at the plate but just throwing out another reason other than that why it could be.

Aaron Judge continues to rake, hitting his 42nd bomb of the season today and now is projected to hit 67. I'm not one of those people but I know many fans still throw out all the steroid HR totals and still treat 61 as the true HR record, so if he keeps up his current pace he is going to blow by that. I wonder if the old timers will acknowledge him as the record holder or come up with some excuse so they can hang onto the old 61?

Shane Greene Ladies and Gentlemen should never be on waivers!

Yeah I agree both were rated similar when they were prospects and often compared to each other. While not looking as bad as Tork has this year Vaughn did struggle a bit as a rookie and at times looked horrible but he has bounced back thisyear. Basically what Vaughn has done this year is what we can hope for Tork to do next year. I think Vaughn is going to get better to and eventually be an All Star level bat and unless there is something that can't be fixed with Tork I expect him to end up similar.

Plus Konerko played in the PCL which is notorious for having inflated numbers, the stadiums are all like a bunch of Coors Fields.

That was how I viewed him and expected of him. Yeah power can develop last in many cases but his profile just didn't seem like he would develop it. For starters even though he was young he didn't have a projectable frame, he wasnt like a 20 year old Castellanos who had wide shoulders and the type of frame where you could see he could add a bunch of muscle and in turn power. Parades already looked filled out so if he didn't have the power now it likely wasn't going to come. The second reason was that he wasn't hitting 110mph+ missiles where you thought if he changed his launch angle he'd hit more HRs. So yeah to me it is a huge surprise he developed this power.

Boom roasted.

If Okudah can come back and even be a solid starting CB then the Lions have the makings of a really good set of corners with him, Oru and Jacobs who says he plans to be ready by the start of the season. Also despite having a rough rookie season I have high hopes for Melinfowu whether it's at db or safety. I think his physical tools are too good to not have some success in the league, particularly with this coaching staff.

Manning just never looked after he hurt his shoulder in 2019. I'm hoping that they finally got that taken care of hand he can revert to his previous self.

Id be disappointed but if you compare him to other top 5 picks and prospects historically that would probably be considered a success. How about if he turns out to be Castellanos when he was with the Tigers with the bat but can play cf competently? Thats like a 110-120 ops+ for a cf. Id have to think that would be a win for the Tigers.

Yeah I was thinking him or maybe a Mark Teixeira type if all goes well. Teixeira was consistently at or near All Star level but only had a couple seasons where he was really elite. That of course would be a solid turnout but at the time of the draft I was hoping he'd be more of a Goldschmidt type, the type of guy who you could basically pencil in to be a top 5 or 10 hitter every year so "only" being a Teixeira or Konerko would be somewhat disappointing based off how I felt at draft time.

To me the only way you can really knock the trade without using hindsight is that if you think we could've gotten a better player than Meadows by dangling Paredes to other teams. Reason being is pretty much what Cas said, going into the season it would've taken a few unforeseen things happening for Parades to get consistent playing time here, and unfortunately for us those things did indeed end up happening.

The horrible defense is frustrating but I can deal with it because they all make up for it with the bats....oh wait nevermind.

The schedule is the main reason why I feel optimistic about them possibly getting 7 or 8 wins but as we see all the time it's hard to predict teams year to year. Many of these teams that I'm expecting to be terrible could very well end up being decent which would make the seemingly soft schedule not look so easy. I think anything more than 8 would require virtually everything going right on top of getting some luck with the schedule like having a couple of the stronger teams having key injuries or something when we play them.

Asa Lacy was another one and he's been hot garbage every year thus far for the Royals in their system and not even in most people's top 100s anymore. Like 2018 with Mize it could be one of those years where nobody at the top ends of being any good.

Yep I had similar experiences when I played the OF in High School. I imagine it's even tougher when the ball is coming off the bat at over 110mph like the Vlad Jr. ball vs. probably 85 or 90 like the ones I had to deal with.

Considering how bad Haase looked on those first 2 pitches I guess I'll settle for a sac fly.

A really good CF probably makes that look more routine but still a laser like that over your head is a tough play for most CFs so even though he didn't make it look the most graceful I would still say it's a good play.

113mph off the screws = out 70mph off the end of the bat = RBI single. Gotta love baseball.