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Of the 3 you mention, I actually think Tork has the best opportunity as it currently stands to fit Harris' mold, especially when the challenge system is in effect. I think his walk rates will increase significantly and hopefully his eye that is currently almost too good actually becomes an asset.

I think there is close to zero chance we pursue Tucker. Unless we trade Greene or Carpenter, our corner OF are occupied, and being a LH bat, he doesn't help those splits. Add in the fact that I think he still gets 8-10 years when all is said and done, I don't think he's an option. I see them making a play for Kim or another shot at Bregman (think it's doubtful) before I see them pursuing Tucker.

Yeah, no thanks for me to any of those. They definitely make the team worse next year, which if this was 2023 or even deadline 2024, it’s a different story, but where this team is now, no thank you.

Look at what Snell got and look at his number of starts. Or even Glasgow

Well, the Mariners are glad they have Suarez tonight.

And Maeda’s stats prior to signing were pretty good. Flaherty before first signing they weren’t and it worked great. This year his prior year numbers were really good and it didn’t work out as well (although his metrics were still good) I do wish the Tigers would have added Jax or Bednar to go with Finnegan and would have been willing to go big on Joe Ryan, but I’m glad they didn’t trade for Suarez (or Bednar) if it would have cost Melton. A number of people would like us to go after Cease (I’d be happy with that), but based on numbers and metrics, is he much different than Flaherty? Personally ,I’d like us to have both if we can keep Jack for the qualifying offer.

But you just said only the results on the field matter. The results on the field show the Tigers got one of the best relievers traded and the only position players that performed better than who was on their team didn’t fit i.e Naylor.

So then the Tigers shouldn't have traded for any of the names you listed in your earlier post?

I doubt he leaves, but $15 mil isn’t much of a buyout for PSU to pay if they really want him and is willing to pay him $13 mil/yr

The casinos didn’t do that over $450k.

Thank you. I'm surprised they did that with Urquidy since his option seemed reasonable for a flyer at SP - especially when they gave Cobb what they did. I guess if either one is chosen, it means they can then protect someone else.

So does a successor contract mean they will be eligible for the Rule 5 draft?

If we didn't have someone we could trust in Skubal going in game 2, I think there is a good chance Hinch handles the bullpen different in game 1 and we don't win that one. I also think Seattle handled it more desparately which gave us more opportunities to see their leverage relievers which finally helped us in game 4 (and maybe Kerry in game 5. Conversely, with no Skubal in game 5, Hinch may have let Mize go longer in game 4 which may have helped us get a couple extra innings out of some guys in game 5) We definitely lost because we didn't hit well enough, but the team that won actually scored 1 less run in the series than us and couldn't score more than 2 runs for 14 innings of game 5 either.

Rather than the Lions leaking it, I wonder if someone in the Lions organization saw it and passed it along. It seems like something Campbell/Morton may have done out of humor - like out of the group of trick plays they had, they picked that one. Also, Goff could have been the first scorer on a sneak or a scramble - not as likely as Mahomes obviously, but more likely than on the play in question. So it's not necessarily true that the better was expecting him to catch a pass for a TD. It's more likely the gambler has a problem and was looking for a huge win opportunity.

It isn't the percentage of games in the season that matters as much as the percentage of games in the postseason when he can pitch in 33-43% in any given series and affect many of them he doesn't as both Hinch and the opposing manager knows he is likely to give a strong outing and they make decisions other in other games based on that (i.e. game 1 of the Seattle series).

Agree completely. Add in the practice squad signing of Fuller, I think we can weather it until Arnold and Reed get back (barring any major setbacks for either)

That's a bit of a revision on Smith. Smith actually performed very well for us and was one of the highest rated players traded at the deadline. They actually went out and got the best available player at edge.

Mason Miller had many years of control and the Padres believe he can be a front of rotation starter. The Padres don’t trade De Vries if Miller is only signed through 2026.

I tend to agree with Tiger337. I do think they value Ibanez more than Malloy on the major league club and will try and trade Malloy, but if they don't I could see Ibanez dfa'd, especially with being eligible for arbitration.

I agree. I'd put Jones in the "Lock" column and Malloy in the "Bubble" one - I originally was going over how they are listed on the spreadsheet.

Exactly, which is why I don't think it makes any sense to trade Skubal. I also think it would have a very significant impact on the rest of the team, and risk a lot of the chemistry the team has developed. Would guys be as accepting of being pinch hit for, for example, if they don't think management is giving them a chance to continue building on what they've done the past 2 seasons.

I hate that there is such disparity in revenues that it allows them to do that. I wish at the minimum, all $ in deferred contracts were accounted for (i.e. that which wasn't applied to the CBT during the term of the deal gets applied in the later years after the deal) and that signing bonuses were treated in the same way as deferrals - present value. The way it is, they can defer a large amount, but pay a $50 mil signing bonus and they get the best of both worlds, the value of the contract is reduced due to the deferrals. Also, if a 7 year contract with deferrals gets a present value correction for CBT, why does a 14 year contract without deferrals (like Soto's) not get a present value correction as $50 mil 14 years from now is definitely worth less than $50 mil now? At least take away some of those options.

I do too. I see more of a spot for him than Malloy.

I do think Tork is the Tiger to benefit the most from the challenge system. He seems to have too good of an eye many times and has gotten hurt (it seems) more than anyone by calls off the plate when other guys may swing at them to put them in play.

It's what happens when you're willing to pay oft-injured guys huge $ to be ready for the playoffs and they don't get injured at the end of the season like they were last year. The money they have in their rotation for the regular season innings is crazy, but this year the plan worked and everyone is healthy when they needed to be.