1984Echoes Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I agree with the team/ Stevie that they should try to make a run for the playoffs. So whatever he does in the way of trades I will be fine with... In fact, i think I've already posted a few times that I would be fine with the team both selling AND buying at the deadline... whatever it takes for the team to be positioned for being a competitive team both now and into the future... On that note: moves I'd like to see: 1) Hold onto Vrana as well. To your point on Raymond... if he's out for a long time, it probably doesn't make sense to move Bertuzzi... OR Vrana.. if the team wants to make a run at the playoffs. Plus his value is about zero for now so I'd just as soon let the season play out and if they wanna do something with Vrana at lerast wait until the offseason. 2) I am so down on Chiarot. I think he's a net negative on the ice. And if he's not dragging down Seider (which he did the first 35 or so games this year), then he's dragging down Hronek or WHOEVER is on the ice with him. Yeah, I get it, he added a measure of toughness this team needed and he's laid out some really sweet hits... Sorry, but look elsewhere for that please. Can SY trade him? Can we just buy him out of his contract? Please do one or the other. Bring up Edvinsson. Pair Walman with Seider and Maatta with Hronek and start Edvinsson on 3rd pairing with (so help me...) Lindstrom, Hagg, or Oesterle... 3) Ned is looking really sharp down in Grand Rapids. But Hellberg also looks fine as a 2nd goalie so SY can do whatever he wants in this area... But don't let Husso wear down again please. If Ned can play more often than Hellberg and give Husso a better breather, so he doesn't wear down, then make a move there. It looks like Ned is ready for a 2nd chance, IMO. 4) If SY is trading extra parts that other teams actually want... fine, go for it. I don't know who that would be (Chiarot? Maatta much more likely), but... not to repeat myself... if Stevie spots a trade that ADDS to our chances at the playoffs, either short-term (this year) or long term chances... go for it! Draft picks this year and next year do not mean as much to me as trying to get back into the playoffs. And SY can assess the proper value of assets to be traded for the proper player in return for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: ... 2) I am so down on Chiarot. I think he's a net negative ... 4) If SY is trading extra parts that other teams actually want... if Stevie spots a trade that ADDS to our chances at the playoffs, either short-term (this year) or long term chances... go for it! ... I like how this guy thinks: https://thehockeywriters.com/red-wings-chiarot-trade-bait-land-jakob-chychrun/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I thought I proposed a trade nearly identical to that (but not including Chiarot) somewhere but I can't find it... Might've been on capfriendly.com/trade-machine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The other guy I'd like the Red Wings to target as both a sell and a buy, or as a squeeze a player out of a 3rd party cap space move, is Dylan Coghlan from the Hurricanes. RHD not getting any playing time. And hope he turns into a RH'ed Walman for our 3rd pairing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: I agree with the team/ Stevie that they should try to make a run for the playoffs Just keep in mind that we only have one hack's word for what another hack thinks about that, not SY's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Just keep in mind that we only have one hack's word for what another hack thinks about that, not SY's. Well... I trust the Yzerplan so... Whatever he's thinking/ moves that he makes or doesn't make... I'll get on board with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 Just because a reporter heard that Bertuzzi is off the market, even if Yzerman said Bertuzzi is off the market, doesn’t mean Bertuzzi is off the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Just because a reporter heard that Bertuzzi is off the market, even if Yzerman said Bertuzzi is off the market, doesn’t mean Bertuzzi is off the market. I don't know what value level SY puts on making the playoffs this season and/or how much he is willing to sacrifice whatever trade value he'd be giving up in a pending UFA to be all in to do it, but I am more confident that a 5 game stretch is not what changes his mind about the situation one way or the other. Edited February 20, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Red Wings at Capitols: MUST WIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Now that the win streak is over Vrana should slot in against his old team I imagine. Wonder if Mantha will be scratched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Dang Zadina is out for Vrana, was hoping it would be someone else but I guess I can't argue with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Dang Zadina is out for Vrana, was hoping it would be someone else but I guess I can't argue with it IDK, Zadina and Veleno both appear to be pretty much lost causes. Zadina seems a little more of a presence on the ice, but he is an even worse finisher than Veleno, if that's even possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: IDK, Zadina and Veleno both appear to be pretty much lost causes. Zadina seems a little more of a presence on the ice, but he is an even worse finisher than Veleno, if that's even possible. I think both players still have places in the NHL, just not in the top six as you'd hope when you drafted them. They probably want Veleno for 3C/4C so Rasmussen can stay at center for now. Kubalik would be the option to sit in my opinion, I would add Sundqvist too but I think Lalonde likes him a lot. Either way I can't really argue with Zadina being the odd guy out though I think he has been playing fine since he's been back. I wouldn't have minded seeing Zadina and Vrana on a line together to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 mr yzerman is in the building for tonight's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 once again, bertuzzi is in the mix. gets the puck on thw boards down low, finds hagg up top and he scores thanks to a great screen from perron. bert is back to being the straw that stirs the drink for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Seider with another erasure of a Cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Well Larkin got kicked out for a major cross check. It was an awful play but him but I'm a bit shocked he got kicked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 That should reveal our lack of depth at Center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 anthony mantha injured and out for the rest of the game????? no way. i like the stat that vrana has scored as many goals as mantha since the trade....in 65 less games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Well Larkin got kicked out for a major cross check. It was an awful play but him but I'm a bit shocked he got kicked out. Another one of those dumb automatic rules. It looked major worthy and any crosscheck that is a major is an automatic game misconduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 A hockey stick is completely wasted in Veleno's hands...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 2-1 after 2. Vrana had a chance on a late powerplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 Huge win. The playoff race is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Caps with too many good chances in the 2nd half of the game. Husso huge again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Huge win. The playoff race is on. Yep, in the thick of it now........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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