Gun Legislation, Crime, and Events

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I also never threatened anyone. Things will be getting spicy and it’s best to be prepared that was not meant as a threat. Today is 9/11 I enlisted on 9/12/01 to try to make the world a better place.

What exactly are you preparing for?  I didn't take it as a personal threat, but it sounds like you are preparing to shoot someone

[CMRivdogs]

48 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

We live in such stupid times

Where does one start. He has compromised a crime scene. Possibly stolen evidence. Dude needs some time out to consider his actions. Hopefully with a big burly dude.

Edited September 11 by CMRivdogs

[Tigeraholic1]

9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

What exactly are you preparing for?  I didn't take it as a personal threat, but it sounds like you are preparing to shoot someone

I live on 20 acres and my next-door neighbor who is an African-American Vietnam Vet has about 200 acres behind my property so we set up a range together that we use. You can run through a couple hundred rounds easily, but that’s what we are doing  not trying to hurt anybody. You should see his arsenal!

[Tiger337]

26 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I live on 20 acres and my next-door neighbor who is an African-American Vietnam Vet has about 200 acres behind my property so we set up a range together that we use. You can run through a couple hundred rounds easily, but that’s what we are doing  not trying to hurt anybody. You should see his arsenal!

If there are going to be millions of people running around with guns, then they should be practicing gun safety so I have no problem with a shooting range. But you seemed to suggesting that there would be a greater need to shoot people now, so I asked what you are preparing for.     

[Kacie]

Not sure what your neighbor being African American has to do with anything. It doesn't give the impression you think it does.

Am I remembering correctly, did Charlie Kirk call for the Epstein files to be released a few months ago?

[Hongbit]

29 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I live on 20 acres and my next-door neighbor who is an African-American Vietnam Vet has about 200 acres behind my property so we set up a range together that we use. You can run through a couple hundred rounds easily, but that’s what we are doing  not trying to hurt anybody. You should see his arsenal!

Makes perfect sense for him.  He needs to protect himself from ignorant neighbors that choose to constantly single him out as African American. 

Honestly,  what caused you to make the choice to bring up his race when describing him?   He’s your Vietnam Vet neighbor that likes guns.   There’s no need to qualify his race.  

My guess is that you can’t help it and probably don’t even notice.  That’s how your old brain is wired.   You can’t just turn off a lifetime of treating black people differently.  I’m sure you don’t even think of yourself as even a little bit racist.    

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, Kacie said:

Not sure what your neighbor being African American has to do with anything. It doesn't give the impression you think it does.

Am I remembering correctly, did Charlie Kirk call for the Epstein files to be released a few months ago?

He called for them to be released a few days ago. He initially wanted them released, then changed course after Trump got mad, then went back to calling for their release. 

[Sports_Freak]

7 hours ago, antrat said:

When Democrats are shot

Look at all the misinformation the GOP was spreading about Pelosi's husband what he was brutally attacked. And they wonder why normal Americans call them deplorables.

[mtutiger]

Holic, since you're posting again....

Can you admit that Kash Patel sucks at this job yet?

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Makes perfect sense for him.  He needs to protect himself from ignorant neighbors that choose to constantly single him out as African American. 

Honestly,  what caused you to make the choice to bring up his race when describing him?   He’s your Vietnam Vet neighbor that likes guns.   There’s no need to qualify his race.  

My guess is that you can’t help it and probably don’t even notice.  That’s how your old brain is wired.   You can’t just turn off a lifetime of treating black people differently.  I’m sure you don’t even think of yourself as even a little bit racist.    

I think most people are racist.  some just a little, some a lot and very few realize it.  

[Sports_Freak]

6 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Nope, just preparing for the worst. Plus I was getting low from my last order. 

Does this guys beliefs align with your's so closely that, for some reason, you're mourning his death more than the hundreds of school children who have been slaughtered? If so, not only do you lose all credibility but also all respect from the vast majority of posters on this message board.

 

 

[Sports_Freak]

MAGA just "Needs to just get over it" about Kirk being shot. Trump said that about children, was that wacko more precious to them than children? 

[pfife]

A Harris FBI would have this dude in custody already.   Some serious doge dip****tery and asshattery on full display from this crop of onion pouches 

[Tigeraholic1]

46 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Does this guys beliefs align with your's so closely that, for some reason, you're mourning his death more than the hundreds of school children who have been slaughtered? If so, not only do you lose all credibility but also all respect from the vast majority of posters on this message board.

 

 

Why? Because I am not celebrating an American being assassinated? Did you tell your kids and grandkids America is better off because a guy with a microphone was assassinated in front of thousands of college students?  

I volunteer as a suicide prevention  coordinator for the VA. Tomorrow I will check on my fifteen brothers who struggle with PTSD. 9/11 and Christmas are the worst for them. I started with twenty three and have attended all of their funerals and watched the honor guard place a folded flag in their loved ones hands.

 If you and your cronies don’t respect me I really couldn’t care less. 

[Tigermojo]

Seeing pictures of the kid reminds me of the Trump assassination attempt. I doubt these young white men are radical leftists. They are more likely obsessed fans. Trump has turned Maga into a three ring circus. Celebrities always attract unhinged fans.

[pfife]

Even the worst internet word games company around (in more ways than one) apparently gets it

 

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, pfife said:

Even the worst internet word games company around (in more ways than one) apparently gets it

 

Wow, who knew that hiring someone with hardly any law enforcement experience to run one of the largest law enforcement agencies in the United States would be a disaster. 

[pfife]

The old DEI hires were way better than these DEI hires

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Why? Because I am not celebrating an American being assassinated? Did you tell your kids and grandkids America is better off because a guy with a microphone was assassinated in front of thousands of college students?  

I volunteer as a suicide prevention  coordinator for the VA. Tomorrow I will check on my fifteen brothers who struggle with PTSD. 9/11 and Christmas are the worst for them. I started with twenty three and have attended all of their funerals and watched the honor guard place a folded flag in their loved ones hands.

 If you and your cronies don’t respect me I really couldn’t care less. 

Life is complex, people are complex. What a person does that is good doesn't mean they can't be crazy. 

But seriously, that's exactly why what a guy like Kirk preaches is so terrible. The trans person I happen to know the best does more selfless good work out in the larger community than Charlie Kirk probably ever dreamed of doing in his life. He has(had) no right or standing at all to impugn that person's existence or their value.

 

Edited September 12 by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

21 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Life is complex, people are complex. What a person does that is good doesn't mean they can't be crazy. 

But seriously, that's exactly why what guy like Kirk preach is so terrible. The trans person I happen to know the best does more selfless good work out in the larger community than Charlie Kirk probably ever dreamed of doing in his life. He has(had) no right at all to impugn that person's existence or their value.

 

Kirk is also someone who made his name in the social media world, and social media, as it is constructed, is built to push all of us away from the larger community in front of us and monopolize our time. And one of the emotions that gets exploited by the platforms and the influencers who utilize them is anger. Anybody who has spent any amount of time on a social media platform in the last 24 hours should be able to notice how easily they exploit it.

None of it makes anybody happier, none of it makes us better off, none of it makes the world a better place. Treating people with dignity and respect, regardless of who they are, that's' what makes the world a better place. 

Charlie Kirk should not have had this happen to him. I feel bad for his kids, his wife and his friends, all the people who maybe saw a different side of him than any of us did. But in terms of his public life, the record speaks for itself... he said a lot of mean and terrible things about many different people from walks of life different than his own. It would be intellectually dishonest of me to pretend otherwise.

Edited September 12 by mtutiger

[gehringer_2]

7 hours ago, mtutiger said:

We live in such stupid times

Dickens actually already wrote this character once, but of course as fiction. But it's right out of 'A Christmas Carol' where Scrooge wants to see some "human feeling" over his death and the Ghost of Christmas Yet-to-Be shows him the chambermaid having a gay old time selling what she stripped from his bedroom as he lay there dead but still warm. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Charlie Kirk fundamentally believed (and the right still believes this) that a society that has more guns will be safer. That a good guy with a gun will keep you protected from a bad guy with a gun. That theory was tragically tested in a real life scenario, not in a laboratory or a college research paper, and didn't work out for Charlie Kirk. A bad guy with a gun shot and killed him and no good guy with a gun would have been able to save him. That's because bad guys with guns don't announce what they're going to do. There is no heads up or forewarning that they're going to commit a crime or a violent action. 

There are solutions that could solve this problem and things that could have saved Charlie Kirk's life. Solutions like background checks and mental health screenings on all individuals purchasing a gun, to ensure that person is capable and qualified to own a gun. Even more than that, we could have done, at any point in time after one of the thousands of mass shootings this country has experienced, a gun buyback program as Australia did.

In the wake of Australia's worst mass shooting event ever, the Port Arthur massacre of 1996, the Australian government instituted a gun buyback program to reduce the number of guns in society and prevent future mass shootings. Here in America, we have more guns than people in society. We have an estimated 120.5 guns per every 100 Americans. We have one of the highest gun death rates in the developed world. In 2023 we had 13.7 gun deaths per 100,000 citizens. In Australia the number of gun deaths per person is .103 for every 100,000 persons. Why is that number so low? One reason, among many, is because they simply have less guns in society. Therefore, angry, bad, mentally ill, and/or vengeful people would simply have less access to a gun and less ability to carry out their violent acts. A gun buyback policy, implemented at anytime over the last 30 years in this country could have saved the lives of countless Americans, including our children and Charlie Kirk himself. Gun buyback programs work!

[Tigeraholic1]

8 hours ago, mtutiger said:

 

None of it makes anybody happier, 

 

[Tigermojo]

Suspect in custody.

[Sports_Freak]

9 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Why? Because I am not celebrating an American being assassinated? Did you tell your kids and grandkids America is better off because a guy with a microphone was assassinated in front of thousands of college students?  

I volunteer as a suicide prevention  coordinator for the VA. Tomorrow I will check on my fifteen brothers who struggle with PTSD. 9/11 and Christmas are the worst for them. I started with twenty three and have attended all of their funerals and watched the honor guard place a folded flag in their loved ones hands.

 If you and your cronies don’t respect me I really couldn’t care less. 

You want to call caring and normal Americans "cronies?" While the hate coming out of the right is being questioned?