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Voter Fraud is not the problem, ELECTION fraud is


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These projectors spend so much time talking about how they were frauded in 2020 that it’s fair to wonder how much fraud played a role in 2016. No one thought much about how fraud might affect 2016 before the election, but then Trump himself raised everyone’s antennae by talking about fraud so incessantly in the run-up to 2020 that we were actively defending against it.

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1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Maybe the others were just playing possum...

 

See, now in the old days, the Republican President of the Arizona Senate would pay for this garbage with their career, because nobody put up with such unserious nonsense at one time.

This Karen, though? She's gonna fundraise off it. You watch.

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On 6/6/2022 at 10:30 PM, chasfh said:

Going after Democrats for anything is the telltale sign that the Republicans are going to do the exact same thing.

This is definitely going to be a bigger story.  The dems going after Chief Craig is a good thing IMO, but it's going to screw both parties come next election.  Both parties use the same 3rd party companies to get signatures, both knew they were a joke, but the dems were smart enough to use it against the opponent at the last second.  The GOP will definitely scrutinize the Dems next time around.  

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8 hours ago, ewsieg said:

This is definitely going to be a bigger story.  The dems going after Chief Craig is a good thing IMO, but it's going to screw both parties come next election.  Both parties use the same 3rd party companies to get signatures, both knew they were a joke, but the dems were smart enough to use it against the opponent at the last second.  The GOP will definitely scrutinize the Dems next time around.  

what dems went after Craig?

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8 hours ago, ewsieg said:

This is definitely going to be a bigger story.  The dems going after Chief Craig is a good thing IMO, but it's going to screw both parties come next election.  Both parties use the same 3rd party companies to get signatures, both knew they were a joke, but the dems were smart enough to use it against the opponent at the last second.  The GOP will definitely scrutinize the Dems next time around.  

Dems were smart enough to not cheat whereas that's what Republicans do as evidenced by the evidence.

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1 hour ago, oblong said:

what dems went after Craig?

I believe it was the Michigan Democratic party that challenged Craig and that 'quality guru' guy, whatever his name was.   I think Dixon even jumped on the bandwagon to help them out.

52 minutes ago, pfife said:

Dems were smart enough to not cheat whereas that's what Republicans do as evidenced by the evidence.

Whitmer was smart enough to provide the max amount of signatures.  Again, they use the same third party companies that organize these signature drives.  There absolutely was some of the same issues for Whitmer's signatures as Craig's.  Sounds like this was well known in political circles that a good amount of these signatures were either not properly documented or outright fraudulent, but they were never challenged.   The Dem party chose to strategically point it out against specific people at a specific time.  Smart political move, but it's also going to force them to use more campaign funds in the future to vet signatures they get before submitting them to the state.  As I stated earlier, it's a good thing.

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18 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I believe it was the Michigan Democratic party that challenged Craig and that 'quality guru' guy, whatever his name was.   I think Dixon even jumped on the bandwagon to help them out.

Whitmer was smart enough to provide the max amount of signatures.  Again, they use the same third party companies that organize these signature drives.  There absolutely was some of the same issues for Whitmer's signatures as Craig's.  Sounds like this was well known in political circles that a good amount of these signatures were either not properly documented or outright fraudulent, but they were never challenged.   The Dem party chose to strategically point it out against specific people at a specific time.  Smart political move, but it's also going to force them to use more campaign funds in the future to vet signatures they get before submitting them to the state.  As I stated earlier, it's a good thing.

It wasn't the democratic party.  It was the state elections canvassing board. They certify ballot signatures.  Craig and the others submitted fraudulent signatures and didn't have enough valid signatures.  Therefore their nominations weren't valid.   This is another attempt to "both sides" something with zero evidence.  Nobody "went after" Craig. 

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