Trumps Presidency 2025

[Tiger337]

15 minutes ago, chasfh said:

You can’t prove that I make him out to be a genius, unless you believe were he to display any shred of purposefulness, that would qualify as genius.

I don’t know why you seem to be so knocked out by the idea that Donald Trump might actually have a clue about what his mission is and how he might accomplish that. Do you think he’s some sort of randomly-behaving id baby incapable of forming a coherent thought or of understanding the effect his actions have?

You keep saying he knows EXACTLY what he's doing as if he has every move planned out.  I don't see it that way.  I guess we just disagree on that point.  

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, GalagaGuy said:

So much for no wars under Trump.

 

Joe Biden’s war through his weak failure of a Middle East policy derrrrp

[guy incognito]

[chasfh]

9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

You keep saying he knows EXACTLY what he's doing as if he has every move planned out.  I don't see it that way.  I guess we just disagree on that point.  

I never said he has every move planned out, either, so there’s nothing to disagree on, is there?

He doesn’t need to have every move planned out. He’s not a details guy. But he has a mission to accomplish, which is to explicitly destroy democracy at the behest of his various creditors. So when he does something big picture and damaging, such as when he spouts Kremlin talking points, and people here say he’s stupid for doing it, that’s when I say, he’s not stupid because he’s knows exactly what’s he doing. It’s not on accident to the detriment of America. It’s on purpose to the detriment of America.

[Tiger337]

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I never said he has every move planned out, either, so there’s nothing to disagree on, is there?

He doesn’t need to have every move planned out. He’s not a details guy. But he has a mission to accomplish, which is to explicitly destroy democracy at the behest of his various creditors. So when he does something big picture and damaging, such as when he spouts Kremlin talking points, and people here say he’s stupid for doing it, that’s when I say, he’s not stupid because he’s knows exactly what’s he doing. It’s not on accident to the detriment of America. It’s on purpose to the detriment of America.

I don't believe his personal plan is to destroy democracy or to hurt America.  I don't think he gives a **** about democracy or America one way or the other.  His goal is to acquire as much adulation, prestige, wealth and power as possible.  The destruction of democracy and America is the goal of his handlers. 

[pfife]

9 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I must have missed her op-ed after Charlottesville when MAGA was chanting "Jews will not replace us" and one MAGA individual ran a person over in a car and murdered them. Or her op-ed after January 6th and the attempted, violent coup on the capitol building.

I missed it because to hell with detnews

[romad1]

8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I wasn't a big fan of Newsom, but he has been impressive, much better than Whitmer. 

It reminded me of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (the miniseries, not the movie) where Sam Collins says he never thought much of Bill Hayden but on the night of Jim Prideaux's capture, Bill was a treat to watch. 

[pfife]

4 hours ago, mtutiger said:

It gave him the power to be in that building today. And in that room today.

So yeah, being a Senator does give you abilities that a normal person doesn't have. Same goes for GOP members as well

And speaker maga mike wants him censured in the senate so clearly part of his job

[pfife]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I continue to wonder, for all the authoritarianism, what exactly the payoff is supposed to be.

Even his supplicant leaders don't give a crap about his influence 

Hashtag respected around the world 

[gehringer_2]

It figures in an odd sort of way. Bibi wasn't going to get a go ahead from Biden, but he probably thought he could wait and he might one from Trump, but when Trump turned out not to be so gung-ho as he hoped, he decided he was going without US co-operation.

Edited Friday at 03:48 AM by gehringer_2

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I thought Trump was supposed to be a peace time President? He told us how easy peace deals and negotiations would be. He told us there would be no wars under his Presidency. What happened sir?

[pfife]

he prolly forgot

[mtutiger]

8 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't believe his personal plan is to destroy democracy or to hurt America.  I don't think he gives a **** about democracy or America one way or the other.  His goal is to acquire as much adulation, prestige, wealth and power as possible.  The destruction of democracy and America is the goal of his handlers. 

I'd go a step further to say that it isn't clear that even has much day-to-day control of his administration.

On immigration in particular, seems pretty clear that Stephen Miller is the one calling the shots

[romad1]

Newsom's presser last night was thrilling.  It was as if someone with a few political skills who was not 99 years old was finally in the fight and in front of a camera with his dander up.  

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[romad1]

the alarm bells are ringing.  These idiots are also dangerous. 

[oblong]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

I'd go a step further to say that it isn't clear that even has much day-to-day control of his administration.

On immigration in particular, seems pretty clear that Stephen Miller is the one calling the shots

He only wanted to be President so he could stay out of jail and make more money.  I'm convinced if charges weren't brought againt him 3-4 years ago or whatever, he'd still be in FL.   He has no agenda or goals at this point in his life.

 

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, oblong said:

He only wanted to be President so he could stay out of jail and make more money.  I'm convinced if charges weren't brought againt him 3-4 years ago or whatever, he'd still be in FL.   He has no agenda or goals at this point in his life.

 

You know revenge is the highest level of Maslow's hierarchy. 

[Tigermojo]

Noem's crack security team thought Padilla was trying to steal her purse.

[romad1]

Calls grow for Kristi Noem to resign in the wake of Padilla incident | The Independent

 

[smr-nj]

33 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Calls grow for Kristi Noem to resign in the wake of Padilla incident | The Independent

 

Trump will be awarding her a “Medal of Freedom”. 

[RatkoVarda]

Noem should resign for saying she and the military and in Cali for regime change. 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't believe his personal plan is to destroy democracy or to hurt America.  I don't think he gives a **** about democracy or America one way or the other.  His goal is to acquire as much adulation, prestige, wealth and power as possible.  The destruction of democracy and America is the goal of his handlers. 

Now we are getting closer to agreement. All we have to settle now is whether he actually knows what he's doing when he does something that furthers that goal. I say he knows.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Noem should resign for saying she and the military and in Cali for regime change. 

Well, that's gonna get you in the first boxcar. 😉

[Motown Bombers]

I'm old enough to remember when Jake Tapper was going nuts over the Afghanistan withdrawal and interpreters were being left behind.